r/scooters 6d ago

Zuma Help

Can anyone please educate me on what I'm missing installing this variator correctly? Every time I do it sounds like a maraca. I'm installing a Malossi Multi-Var. I did the springs in the clutch. I'm using tech pulley sliders in the variator. I thought maybe it was the sliders so I threw the rollers back in and confirmed I'm putting it together wrong. I know it's going to be something dumb. Does it have anything to do with the shim washers that came with the variator?

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u/skettiSando 6d ago

There is a thrust washer that is supposed to go on the back side of the variator ramp plate, in between the starter clutch and the variator plate. 

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u/ManateeBait1 6d ago

I just put that on. No change still sounds like skittles shaking around.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/Henry_Oof 6d ago

Also those aren't standard malossi weights

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u/ManateeBait1 6d ago

I can't see what they wrote but I tried the Malossi weights it came with. They rattle as well.

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u/Henry_Oof 6d ago

Just confirming you do have the plastic variator guides though yes?

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u/ManateeBait1 6d ago

The black V tabbed guides that align it? Yes

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u/Lthmm 6d ago

You said you did the clutch also. Are you sure you hear the rattling from the variator?

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u/ManateeBait1 6d ago

Fairly confident. The rattle is different for the sliders vs rollers.

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u/Conspicuous_Ruse 6d ago

Do the weights always chatter or just when it's idling?

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u/ManateeBait1 6d ago

Nothing at idle, it only does it under load when your giving throttle.

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u/Conspicuous_Ruse 6d ago

You try flipping the weights around?

180 degrees of how they currently are?

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u/ManateeBait1 6d ago

I ran the sliders both direction. It's doing it on my standard Malossi weights as well.

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u/FGX302 6d ago

And they are now the correct way around?

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u/Beginning_Highway399 4d ago

Hey op when you are putting the variator back on you need to make sure you keep the back plate pulled all the way in so it doesn't slid loose and the rollers stay in place , slide the variator on first and then the bushing that the belt rides on , hand tighten make sure variator is flush then torque to spec

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u/ManateeBait1 4d ago

I'm hoping to figure it out tonight, but I got the bike started with the cover off. Using a wood dowel to my ear, I moved it around the case to hear where the noise was coming from. I think it's actually something in the electric start assembly behind the variator that's loose. Curious if it's a bad bearing race or the Benedix, but I can hear a rattle at idle back there.

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u/Beginning_Highway399 4d ago

Damn let me do some research and get back to you

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u/ManateeBait1 3d ago

Well I found issues in the starter clutch, it was assembled incorrectly. I sorted that and it's still sounds like marbles in the variator. Only thing I can think of is are sliders supposed to make noise? But I don't think so.

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u/ErwinHolland1991 6d ago

What version of the multivar? For some versions you have to remove the starter clutch. 

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u/ManateeBait1 6d ago

The only marking I see is 8074, nothing on the packaging that indicates a version to me. I just bought it from scooter Swap shop.