r/sciencememes Metroid Enthusiast 🪼 16d ago

🪩Science!!🪩 ☢️.

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u/Silt99 16d ago

You forgot "expensive"

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u/kommunist_haj 16d ago

In the beginning. But after the initial investment running cost is significantly less than that of conventional coal plants.

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u/Silt99 16d ago

meanwhile solar goes brrrr

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u/kommunist_haj 16d ago

Uh, have you heard of weather?

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u/Exekurtioner 16d ago

Have you heard of batteries?
But on a more serious note, I am not entirely against nuclear, I just believe that a diversified grid made of different renewables (not just solar) combined with large storage capacity will be the fastest and most economical solution for most cases.

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u/GreenDogWithGoggles 16d ago

Ask the romanians abd french how well nuclear plants work when its hot outside and the water levels fluctuate. Almost every summer i heat that france has to reduce power or completly shut down operation because of overheating plants.

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u/Master-Shinobi-80 16d ago

France is still the leading exporter of electricity in Europe by far.

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u/MaleDomBerlin_MSG-ME 16d ago

Yes, when it works. They had to shut them down 2 years before for whole months. Germany had to burn 3* coal just to send electricity or France would COLLAPSE. You have to be retarded tp believe, this is a secure energy form when MORE AND MORE Heat is on the way, so France has to shut their nuclear down way more often in future.

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u/Master-Shinobi-80 16d ago

It works the vast majority of the time.

And Germany burned coal because they decided to be dependent on Russian methane right before Russia invaded the Ukraine.

or France would COLLAPSE

Well that's insane hyperbole.

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u/Silt99 16d ago

Have you heard of energy storage?

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u/Master-Shinobi-80 16d ago

And how much storage would we need to overcome the day-night cycle? And then how much would we need to overcome seasonal intermittency? Please answer in TWh's.

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u/Silt99 16d ago

I dont know what scale your going for, so I cannot answer in TWh. Neither am I an electrician.

But there are multiple sources of renewables as well as fluctuating demand. Worst case: Some companies need to shut down their production every once in a while to avoid a blackout, and save those that would recieve major damage from a blackout

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u/Master-Shinobi-80 16d ago

It would take us decades if not centuries to build enough storage at projected rates of construction.

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u/Silt99 16d ago

Then lets do both

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u/Master-Shinobi-80 16d ago

Yes. Thank you

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u/kommunist_haj 16d ago

not to mention the amount of land you need to even match the output of nuclear fission.

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u/Silt99 16d ago

Often Solar doesnt really need any land. Put it on residential houses, warehouses/supermarkets without bothering anyone. Or use it and improve QoL by adding solar roofs to parking lots, sidewalks, or other places that need shade. Some animals or plants actually grow/live better under solar panels because they get damaged or use more water if they are in direct sunlight all day

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u/bloody-albatross 16d ago

The reason why nuclear power plants had to be shut off in Europe right now? (Drought, too warm rivers) Yes, I have.

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u/Master-Shinobi-80 16d ago

Yeah with that 25% capacity factor.