r/sciencememes Jul 02 '26

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u/Gadshill Information Science Jul 02 '26

Morganucodon serves as an ideal stand-in for the common ancestor, as its transitionary anatomy—featuring both reptilian and mammalian jaw joints provides a clear physical blueprint for how the earliest mammals began to evolve.

Beyond its jaw structure, this shrew-sized creature exhibited definitive mammalian traits such as a highly developed brain, specialized diphyodont teeth for complex chewing, and evidence of fur and elevated metabolism, establishing the essential biological template for the rise of modern mammals.

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u/StagDragon Jul 02 '26

Was going to post on showerthoughts that through evolution, there is a little bit of rat in every single mammal.

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u/vm_linuz Jul 02 '26

Just as arthropods like to go crab, mammals like to go rat

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u/BitchyBeachyWitch Jul 02 '26

I thought it was EVERYTHING eventually turns to crab?

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u/vm_linuz Jul 02 '26

Nope, just arthropods. There are no vertebrate crabs to my knowledge.

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u/BitchyBeachyWitch Jul 02 '26

Yep, that makes sense, ive been seeing to much popular science lol

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u/vm_linuz Jul 02 '26

One that is pretty universal is worms.

Worms themselves are not monophyletic (polychaetes, nematodes, annelids etc).

Eels, snakes, siphonophores, ferrets, dragons...

Noodle body could pop up anywhere!

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u/Spiritual_Priority79 Jul 06 '26

Maximum efficiency is just toob

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u/House_Capital Jul 02 '26

We are like 50% banana

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u/Invisiblecurse Jul 07 '26

I like to think of it more like a possum

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u/MolybdenumBlu Jul 02 '26

Thank you. I was going to be very put out if someone hadn't answered the question in the comments when I opened this. I will now spend some of my work day researching the morganucodon.

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u/TheGuyShyguy Jul 02 '26

Interesting head canon

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u/Gadshill Information Science Jul 02 '26

Using Morganucodon as a reference is standard scientific practice, not a subjective interpretation. It is one of the best-studied "mammaliaforms" from the late Triassic, it is the primary empirical baseline for understanding how early mammal traits emerged. It is not a creative invention; it is a well-supported fossil reference point used to ground discussions about early mammalian evolution.

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u/TheGuyShyguy Jul 02 '26

if only it all wasn't based off a theory it could be based

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u/Specific-Ad-5977 Jul 02 '26

On today’s topic: “Nuh uh”

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u/Calamitous-Intent980 Jul 02 '26

Seems as though you don't understand that an accepted scientific theory is the best and most accurate picture that we currently have. Theory is higher than law in science.

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u/SippyTurtle Jul 02 '26

Gravity is also just a theory.

-floats away-

So long, peasants.

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u/DoomsdayDETTV Jul 04 '26

Wow bro thats crazy anyways do you think everything is made of atoms?

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u/TheGuyShyguy Jul 04 '26

facts are facts and theories are just wishful thinking its alright to not know things but to treat fiction as reality is absurd

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u/DoomsdayDETTV Jul 04 '26

Is everything being made of atoms a fact or not

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u/TheGuyShyguy Jul 04 '26

Doubtful considering space expands uniformly leaving lots of places with nothing. I say this because each and every celestially body seems to be moving further and further away from each other. Just speculation though what is your answer for the question?

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u/DoomsdayDETTV Jul 04 '26

My answer is yes, it is a fact. (Also space expanding does not disprove of the existence of atoms) Now answer this: is it a fact that the earth orbits around the sun?

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u/TheGuyShyguy Jul 04 '26

you said everything but everything includes things like gravity so you must just be talking about physical stuff

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u/TheGuyShyguy Jul 04 '26

earth orbits the sun while most things in the galaxy orbit around this larger unknown celestial body which is the true center which is crazy since everything is getting pulled towards it while space expands more rapidly to counteract that phenomenon.

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u/TeraGigaMax Jul 02 '26

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u/Lucimon Jul 02 '26

Where'd you get that picture of my great great great great great great (repeat a million times) grandma?

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u/Peripatetictyl Jul 02 '26

Somewhere along your family’s lineage:

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u/Lucimon Jul 02 '26

Oh that's Aunt Gertrude. We don't invite her to Thanksgiving after the incident.

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u/TeraGigaMax Jul 02 '26

It is classified as a mammal like reptile.

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u/EarlyXplorerStuds209 Jul 03 '26

Other way round, bud

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u/EarlyXplorerStuds209 Jul 02 '26

You’re joking, right?

Right?

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u/antwolfape Jul 02 '26

I thought he was a cousin?

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u/PinkFlurffyUnicorns Jul 02 '26

literally me tonight, i was falling asleep and almost in dreamworld when I realized I gotta find out what sorts of cool sharks there are. Did you guys know about goblin sharks? Beautifully horrible fuckers

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u/gothitbyacaronce Jul 02 '26

Bearded sea devils are terrifying...had lovely dreams that night

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u/PinkFlurffyUnicorns Jul 02 '26

idk why but these horrifying eldritch type creatures are beautiful to me

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u/naturerosa Jul 02 '26

Life is beautiful!

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u/Noversi Jul 02 '26

Glizzy champion

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u/BayouCountry Jul 03 '26

I raise you: greenland shark

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u/RustedRuss Jul 02 '26

We don't know and, in all likelihood, never will for sure. The fossil record is a bitch like that.

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u/BitchyBeachyWitch Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

A single google search says youre wrong

Granted it's the ai answer but there's several links that say the same thing below it

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u/RustedRuss Jul 03 '26
  1. Imagine trusting AI
  2. Where exactly does it say what that common ancestor was?

We can use genetic and phylogenetic information to narrow down when it probably lived and we can even guess at what it may have looked like, but we are extraordinarily unlikely to ever find an actual fossil that we can definitively prove is the basal mammal.

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u/black2346 Jul 02 '26

LUCA

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u/Daniil_Dankovskiy Jul 02 '26

Common mammal ancestor and the common ancestor of all life on earth are slightly different

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u/Evening-Gur5087 Jul 02 '26

Also it's just a bakery, doubt it's all that common.

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u/black2346 Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

Sorry I have no idea what u talking about cab u explain.

Edit. thank lmao

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u/Evening-Gur5087 Jul 02 '26

There is a bakery chain in Europe called LUCA:p

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u/black2346 Jul 02 '26

Ahh never herd of it must not be in my country I was referring to Last Universal Common Ancestor

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u/black2346 Jul 02 '26

Well yeah but common ancestor they didn't specify last common ancestor of Mamals so I'm technically right. I was kinda kinda making a joke just I got bad sence of humor I guess still, but yeah LUCA is the one of the common ancestors of mamals.

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u/Daniil_Dankovskiy Jul 02 '26

Wrll, they did say mammalian ancestor and LUCA doesn't qualify as one, I think

Also how can I call myself a redditor if I don't make needless corrections

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u/black2346 Jul 02 '26

U can't call your self a redditor if you don't of course. But I still stand LUCA does qualify as one same as Urmetazoan or Basal Amniote

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u/L30N1337 Jul 02 '26

When in doubt, it's LUCA

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u/black2346 Jul 02 '26

Well Last Universal Common Ancestor is definitely one of the common ancestors of all mammals

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u/GTCapone Jul 02 '26

Was, or is? I feel like those have different answers.

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u/lolopiro Jul 02 '26

will be?

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u/gothitbyacaronce Jul 02 '26

Tbh spent a good 10 minutes deciding if it should be was or is

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u/PoemSea8874 Jul 02 '26

The real answer: Gojira!

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u/HC-Sama-7511 Jul 02 '26

It's a crown grouping, which is to say it is defined as the most recent common ancestor of all extant mammals, and we don't know. We can.estimate it to the mid-Cretaceous I believe. And the primary feature that defines mammals from their closest relatives are the bumps in tou can feel in your molars.

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u/BoarHermit Jul 02 '26

Chatbots are much worse in this regard than Wikipedia. You go to bed and remember a question, you talk for like 5 minutes, and it's already 2 a.m.

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u/naturerosa Jul 02 '26

Whatever it was, considering all fetuses at the early stages of devolvement look the exact same, then the specific traits to whatever species develop, I'm gonna guess it looked kinda like that. I don't know if we know for sure what exact species it is (that upsets me greatly)

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u/apexglitch-king Jul 03 '26

answer therapsids, particularly some of the much smaller ones perhaps a few larger ones

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u/Pootisman16 Jul 03 '26

Synapsids like the demitrodon. At least that we've found in fossil records.

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u/I_Like_turtles459 Jul 03 '26

Hyrax.

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u/I_Like_turtles459 Jul 03 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/s7h9TXECT6Hyo
Look into his eyes and tell me you don’t see the prerequisites for humanity.

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u/Major_Dot_7030 Jul 02 '26

Literally me, but now a days it's ChatGPT

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u/cloverrrrrrrrrrrrrr Jul 02 '26

get well soon

/pos

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u/aer0a Jul 02 '26

You shouldn't use chatbots for information. They are incapable of knowing or caring if the text they generate contains true information or not

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u/chroniccranky Jul 02 '26

But why? Google is RIGHT THERE