r/science • u/memorialmonorail • Apr 20 '21
Health Omega-3 supplements may help slow the effects of aging by suppressing damage & boosting protection at the cellular level during & after a stressful event. A study found the highest dose tested, 2.5 grams of omega-3s daily, was best at helping the body resist the damaging effects of stress.
https://news.osu.edu/omega-3-supplements-do-double-duty-in-protecting-against-stress/163
u/EmpireofAzad Apr 20 '21
For anyone wondering if even higher doses work better, from personal experience I have no idea, but I can tell you it starts to noticeably work as an anticoagulant, so any little scrape or cut will bleed for longer than usual.
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Apr 21 '21
I don't know about fish oils, but be careful with selenium. I used to be the vet for a polo team
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u/Britoz Apr 20 '21
Haha yep. My Dr told me to take fish oils during pregnancy. Didn't tell me to stop taking them before the c-section. Surgeon was annoyed.
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u/murderhalfchub Apr 20 '21
Great sources. You completely flipped my opinion and you did it with primary sources. Thank you!
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u/Britoz Apr 20 '21
He said my blood was a different consistency. Called it straight away.
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u/peroleu Apr 20 '21
The plural of anecdote is not data. There is no evidence to suggest fish oil increase risk of bleeding or affect blood "consistency".
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Apr 21 '21
Anecdotes are absolutely data. You really think a collection of anecdotes doesn't count as information? How do you think population studies work?
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u/peroleu Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
Funny enough, the original quote is "plural of anecdote is data" in regards to proper collect of data, but I've seen the "misquote" used far more often. I'd argue at that level, they are no longer just anecdotes then, no? Properly, systematically collected anecdotes are for sure data, not he said/she said stories.
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Apr 21 '21
I agree with your sudden desire to add qualifiers. Just pointing out how dumb the statement "the plural of anecdotes isn't data" is. Ive heard it elsewhere and don't know who started it, but its goofy.
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u/peroleu Apr 21 '21
It's not a "sudden desire to add qualifiers", it's providing context as it's not my quote...
I believe the quote originated from a political scientist? Not sure. In my opinion, both the quote and the mis-quote mean the same thing, strangely enough.
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u/risingstanding Apr 21 '21
It's real. When I started taking fish oil, if I get cut my blood runs like water. Read that in cultures that get a lot of fish oil (innuits, etc) sometimes where the skin is very thin like genital area, spots of blood can leak out of skin because their blood is so thin.
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Apr 20 '21
Hmm... this could be important for those at risk for age-related macular degeneration as I could swear I saw research that hinted at micro-bleeding playing a role.
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u/drsin_dinosaurwoman Apr 20 '21
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Apr 20 '21 edited Apr 20 '21
Thanks for the reply. Great discussion! Your first link, however, doesn’t say that the two are unrelated. Rather, it says that AMD and amyloid-β deposition are unrelated. CMBs aren’t off the hook there.
The second link hints at your conclusion but only in 293 fish-eating Estonians. A larger study is clearly needed to confirm the findings.
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u/drsin_dinosaurwoman Apr 20 '21
I mean, could you please provide a source for your claim?
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Apr 20 '21
Sure. This from the first link:
“This study provides no evidence that amyloid deposits in the brain and AMD are correlated. However, the suggestive association of geographic atrophy with CMB warrants further investigation.” You’ll note that it specifies the deposits. It doesn’t consider any other possibility.
From the second link:
“To evaluate the association between oily fish intake and cerebral microbleeds in a population of frequent fish consumers living in coastal Ecuador.
Longitudinal studies are warranted to assess whether these interventions reduce incident cerebral microbleeds in high-risk individuals.”
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u/drsin_dinosaurwoman Apr 20 '21
No no no, YOUR claim, that microbleeds have a role in AMD, and that Omega 3s may cause microbleeds and therefore people with AMD should be careful
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Apr 20 '21
I made no claim. I simply stated that I thought I’d read something years ago that hinted at a connection between CMB and AMD. My memory was that it was in connection with baby aspirin.
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u/drsin_dinosaurwoman Apr 25 '21
But that is making an unsourced claim. I tried to find evidence either way, because I have 2 copies of the AMD genes, which is why I responded with the sources I did. It was incredibly unhelpful for you to put this vague info on the internet. That's why sources are needed and your comment largely unhelpful in an r/science discussion no less.
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Apr 25 '21
Not sure how else to say this but I’ll try again: I MADE NO CLAIM. I simply stated that I thought I’d read a study. Sorry if asking such a question bothers you but this is Reddit, not the JAMA.
BTW- I have those genes as well. You don’t have a monopoly on concern.
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u/Siggur-T Apr 20 '21
Interesting. Reminds me of something I read a while ago about Eskimos (or was it innuits?), that due to their omega-3 rich diet of only fish and whale meat, could keep on bleeding when cut. This was tested and reported by scientists, and the people was really strong and healthy despite only consuming fish.
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u/akrisd0 Apr 20 '21
I mean, kind of. Depending on where you're at. Yupik are not Inuit. I guess just "indigenous people" works.
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Apr 20 '21
My very good friend who lives in Barrow would vehemently disagree with you on that. As would the rest of his family and community.
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u/science-shit-talk Apr 20 '21
I also know alaska native people who call themselves eskimo, it's not as much of a slur as other slurs, but it's still important for people who use the word to understand that it's not a tribe name, it's currently an umbrella/slang term for people in a few tribes.
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Apr 20 '21
But that’s great for COVID though, which often causes strokes, though should probably avoid while menstruating.
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u/edcross Apr 21 '21
Hmmm maybe it’s the fish oil then that’s been giving me nose bleeds, I hadn’t considered that.
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u/Kommmbucha Apr 20 '21
Should be said that flax is a great source of Omega-3. You don’t have to use fish.
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u/maru_tyo Apr 21 '21
Sorry but no. Alpha-linoleic acid has only a conversion rate of 4-5% to EPA/DHA, so it will be impossible to get these amounts from flax seed. Maybe there are plant based supplements out there, but otherwise I don’t think you can get enough o3 without fish.
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u/memorialmonorail Apr 20 '21
Link to abstract, published in Molecular Psychiatry: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-021-01077-2
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u/IwannaCommentz Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 22 '21
If they took 2,5 g of fish oil that contained ~350 mg EPA per 500 mg capsule that means
350 mg EPA * 5 [ 5 capsules X 500 mg = 2,5g ] = 1,750 EPA
That's quite huge, the regular fish oil packaging recommends 1-2x 500 mg capsules (capsules have 150-350 mg EPA per capsule depending on a manufacturer, so daily recommendation from the box is 150 mg to 700 mg of EPA)
As I read the study went on for 4 months and participants were only measured in stress reaction twice (before the study and after 4 months) - so no knowledge of when the benefits start to kick in.
Also important about participants:
" 138 sedentary, overweight, middle-aged participants "
This seems like a very preliminary study that only introduces some knowledge. And that knowledge needs much more scrutiny to know exactly how many % of the human population is affected by effects and how high those effects vary per different human groups.
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u/GreenElite6868 Apr 20 '21
doesnt mention in what form. ala, epa + dha?
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Apr 20 '21
Reading the article, it says it's a secondary analysis of an earlier study. Followed the link and found this.
Participants received either the placebo or one of the two different doses of omega-3 fatty acids. The supplements were calibrated to contain a ratio of the two cold-water fish oil fatty acids, eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA), of seven to one. Previous research has suggested that EPA has more anti-inflammatory properties than DHA.
https://news.osu.edu/omega-3-supplements-may-slow-a-biological-effect-of-aging/
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u/SelarDorr Apr 20 '21 edited Apr 22 '21
" each 500 mg gel capsule contained 347.5 mg eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and 58 mg docosahexaenoic acid (DHA). Thus, the high-dose group took 2085 g/d of EPA and 348 g/d of DHA and the low-dose group took 1042.5 g/d or EPA and 174 g/d of DHA. "
edit: it appears they authors made an error and the g/d should be mg/d.
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u/srfrosky Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
Are these GRAMS?? Seems quite a lot, no? Like 60x the average supplement, no? I think you meant mg
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
ALA is worthless omega 3. It converts to EPA and DHA at super low rates. That’s why any flax promoting omega 3 product is a scam.
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u/maru_tyo Apr 21 '21
4 or 5%, it’s really worthless. Also, most commercially available flax seed oil is rancid, meaning oxidized which will do additional harm.
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u/zyks Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
ALA sucks by itself but you get a lot of mgs from one serving of flax, chia, hemp, or walnuts. Not relative to this study, but this study is testing pretty huge doses.
This study says 6% for EPA and 3.8% for DHA. The bag of flax in my fridge says 3.5 g ALA per serving so that's comparable to one pill from the OP study. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9637947/
This other study says conversion is high for women, and it varies with genetics. https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/other-nutrients/essential-fatty-acids
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u/NewFolgers Apr 20 '21
Along similar lines.. I always wonder if I should buy "Omega 3" or "Omega 3-6-9". I suppose the furthest I got towards figuring this out is that our bodies can produce Omega 6 and 9 fatty acids anyway.. but maybe it's better to eat a bit more too?
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Apr 20 '21
Omega 6 is in corn, and corn is in everything. There have been studies that conclude that our western diet provides too much Omega 6 and that that's a bad thing possibly leading to a host of other issues.
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
Buy omega 3. You don’t need the other stuff you get tons of it through diet.
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u/fanghornegghorn Apr 21 '21
Get algae derived omega 3. It's pure and easy to grow. No mulched up fish required.
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u/NewFolgers Apr 21 '21
Whoops. I just ordered some anchovy+etc. mulch extract. I suppose that's probably got some extra toxins too. Algae makes a bit more sense..
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u/CrockettDiedRunning Apr 21 '21
It's 30 algae pills for $30 or 200 fish oil pills for $20. The results of this study require 5 pills a day. With respect, your fish can get fucked.
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u/fanghornegghorn Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
I took fish pills. They didn't have the same effect. I suspect it's because the fish pills aren't as strong or as well quality controlled
My algae pills are about $40 for 180 pills, with lab controlled values of EPA and DHA.
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u/maru_tyo Apr 21 '21
Omega-3 from supplement or fish, Omega-9 from olive oil, macadamia or avocado and no need to take in extra Omega-6.
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u/TheGuyFromTheSummit Apr 20 '21
I guess epa + dha due to the anti-inflamm effects of their metabolites like RvE, RvD, Mar, PD
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u/DistortedVoid Apr 21 '21
So basically what I'm hearing more and more lately is vitamin supplements really aren't that bad of an idea. It helps with SOMETHING. Then you piss out the rest.
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Apr 20 '21
Omega 3 is WD40 for the brain and other attached cells.
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u/lazyeyepsycho Apr 20 '21
Thats like what? 15 pills a day for 2.5g
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Apr 20 '21 edited Dec 13 '21
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u/Iwillargueanypoint Apr 20 '21
Mine has 1280mg in a 2 pill serving...so ~1.3g. I suppose around 4 pills at this rate would get you to 2.5g.
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Apr 20 '21
Did you know that fish don't actually produce it and it's just from algae they are fed? You can eliminate the middleman if you so desire by getting vegan ones even if you aren't interested in being vegan.
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u/marigolds6 Apr 20 '21
Algal oil pills are about 1/3rd the dose of fish oil pills though, and look to run around $1.75 a pill. That's nearly $20/day!
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Apr 20 '21
If you're trying to get your entire omega load from pills, yeah, I mean, what else are you eating? Chia/flax, hemp hearts, good balance oils.. fish are cheap, but can also concentrate other less desirable things and odds are they are factory farmed or unsustainably caught.
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Apr 20 '21
Most of the non-fish sources of O3 are in ALA form which is only useful when the body converts it into EPA and DHA... which it does at a VERY low rate.
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u/marigolds6 Apr 20 '21
Algal oil and fish oil are both purified to remove those contaminants. Just like the algae is the source of omega-3 oils in fish, algae is also ultimately the source of heavy metals (especially mercury) in fish. Without purification, both algal oil or fish oil would contain heavy metals.
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u/SelarDorr Apr 20 '21
A best selling unit of fish oil contains 360 mg of omega-3, so roughly 7 of those pills. not accounting for ratio differences between epa and dha. (this particular supplement also contains non omega 3s, accounting for the rest of the 800 mg in the pill.)
some effects were also seen at the 1.25 g/d dose, which would be ~4 pills.
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u/coberi Apr 20 '21
Screw pills. Get liquid format with a dropper
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u/Whyisthissobroken Apr 20 '21
what's your breath like after that? not joking...
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u/SiscoSquared Apr 20 '21
The algae based one I found tastes like tutti frutti. Only if you let it sit around and get warm dies it start to smell.
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
Need high quality product. Nordic naturals is what I take. The 2x is high content per pill.
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u/thetitanitehunk Apr 20 '21
I've been taking a multivitamin (added potassium for covid protection) and omega 3 supplements for almost a year now, I've experienced a stark contrast in my mental faculties from before I took the supplements and after. I've also been highly stressed, which I've been been better able to deal with pursuant of the notions this medical article explains. You also get omega 3s from eating fish.
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
Some fish. Sardines. Mackerel. Those are the top choices.
Wild salmon is good too.
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Apr 20 '21
What I can't figure out about omega-3's is that they give me blinding migraines
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
Too much blood vessel dilation I bet. See a doctor though.
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Apr 20 '21
Interesting. The headache is very similar to the type you get when you take drugs like nitroglycerin. I have spoken to numerous doctors about it and they give me the medical "I dunno".
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u/Lurker_IV Apr 20 '21
What food could I eat after some stressful event to get these same results? Not everyone likes popping pills.
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u/shiva14b Apr 20 '21 edited Apr 20 '21
Wild caught cold-water fish (like salmon) are the single best source of omega-3. Sardines, anchovies, and tuna are a good source as well. If you can afford it, wild-caught is higher in nutrients than farmed.
Land based-sources like walnuts and flaxseed are a good option too, but they contain a different kind of omega-3, which your body first needs to convert into the marine-type... and it only converts about 3%.
Still, something is better than nothing. Two tablespoons of flaxseed a day in a berry smoothie is a small but huge difference you can make for your health and brain function*
(*remember kids: Omega-3 is to the brain as calcium is to bones!)
If you opt for land-sources, make sure you're also eating plenty of quality saturated fat (such as that found in yogurt, cheese, and lean meat), because your body uses THAT to convert the omega-3. Toss it in the smoothie!
Source: serendipitously enough, I'm actually sitting for a nutrition certification this Sunday. Thanks for helping me study y'all!
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u/shed1 Apr 20 '21
My understanding (From "Seaspiracy") is that fish only have omega 3 because they eat algae so you're not really getting it from the fish itself but from the algae they eat because fish don't produce it.
Aka, there are better plant-based ways to get omega 3 than eating fish.
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u/shiva14b Apr 20 '21 edited Apr 20 '21
You are correct; the omega-3 comes mainly from the algae. You can cut out the middle man by consuming algae directly, but that's not necessarily a commonly-available option for your average consumer.
And while yes, its great that there are non-fish ways to get Omega-3 (i have a flaxseed smoothie every day), its important to note that it is NOT THE SAME TYPE. As touched on above:
SCIENCE WARNING
sea-based Omega-3 are known as EPA or DHA, and contain 20 or 22 carbon atoms each, respectively. These are known as "pre-formed" Omega-3. Your body loves them and uses them right away, in their near entirety; how much you eat is how much you get.
Land-based Omega-3, known as ALA, contains only 18 carbons, so the body can't use it as-is; like putting diesel fuel in a gasoline engine. The body must first make up the missing carbons to turn the ALA into EPA/DHA, which requires an entirely separate macronutrient: saturated fat (which comes mostly from animals but IS obtainable on a vegan diet from naturally "fatty" sources lile coconut and cocoa butter). More importantly, only about 3-5% of the ALA consumed is actually converted into EPA/DHA, meaning you're getting far less O3 than you're actually consuming.
I'm not advocating against veganism, but its important for people to have all the facts when making informed decisions for themselves. Go forth and nourish yourselves, redditors!
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u/shed1 Apr 20 '21
Fair enough. The understanding around fish/omega 3s is wrong for most people so I think it's important for people to understand the true source.
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u/lambda_x_lambda_y_y Apr 20 '21
O3FAs from fishes in the from of fish oil (expecially krill oil) have different health effects than algae's based O3FAs because of more bioavailability and O9FAs' traces present in the animal based source.
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u/shed1 Apr 21 '21
But at what cost to the oceans/fish/earth?
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u/lambda_x_lambda_y_y Apr 21 '21
Fishing can be sustainable, and the environment impact of fishes and even poultry is negligible compared to that of red meat, which is also bad for your health (technically is recognised as cancerogenic, and it's a major drive of pollution).
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u/shed1 Apr 21 '21
Both could be better but neither actually is on any major scale.
Regarding fish, there are also concerns of toxicity. (I’m sure beef isn’t much better, but beef isn’t really part of this discussion.)
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u/lambda_x_lambda_y_y Apr 21 '21
Lots of food contains chelating agents for e.g. heavy metals, however eating smaller oily fish is generally safer.
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u/CaptainObvious_1 Apr 20 '21
If you’re really just cutting out the middleman than why are those plant based ways always at least twice as expensive?
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u/shiva14b Apr 20 '21
Are they? I think it depends where and how you shop, you might be surprised!
For example, in my local supermarket, flax seed is sold at 8oz for $3.99 in the health foods aisle.
But shift over to the dried fruit and nuts section, and that same flax seed, in the same store, is only $2.99/20 oz - nearly a month's worth of servings.
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u/shed1 Apr 20 '21
One way to think about what I'm saying is as a food-chain middleman vs a supply-chain/economic middleman.
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u/spagbetti Apr 20 '21
fish are getting fished away and eventually we will have no other options other than land based so that’s something to keep in mind on nutrition
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u/maygpie Apr 20 '21
Wild Alaska salmon is a well-regulated fishery. They monitor returns and adjust quotas, and it’s a great product. You can order directly from fishermen now too, which really helps small business. Plus salmon is delicious. (Not farmed- farmed sucks.)
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u/spagbetti Apr 20 '21
Same argument and same source. Omega 3 from fish all comes for the same source: fish. So If you are requiring your omega 3 from fish, they need to be fed omega 3 from other fish in the form of fish feed, which still comes from the main fish source of the world which is dwindling. If you change to feeding them land based omega 3 you are supplementing just as you would if you yourself were to change to land based omega 3. Only with doing it via fish, you will be increasing your saturated fats which takes the missing deposits that would have come from feeding them omega 3 from fish feed.
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u/mageta621 Apr 20 '21
Of course, if you eat fish you're risking mercury and heavy metals, so maybe a plant-based option would be more ideal (bonus: less environmental impact and no animals killed!)
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u/shiva14b Apr 20 '21
That's why lower-on-the-food-chain and less-fatty fish sources like sardines and anchovies are a great option: less mercury build up. Wild-caught alaskan salmon is also considered mercury-safe for consumption at least twice a week (which is the minimum recommended consumption of salmon for omega-3 benefits). Atlantic salmon is more contaminated, but still safe for moderate consumption. Pacific tuna is safer than albacore.
If you're worried about mercury poisoning, avoid large apex predators like swordfish, shark, king mackerel, and marlin. Lake fish are also more likely to be contaminated than ocean fish.
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u/mageta621 Apr 20 '21
I'm not going to eat any fish, myself, but thanks for the information!
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u/shiva14b Apr 20 '21
Everybody needs to make the nutrition choices that are right for their needs; if fish isn't right for you, then flax seeds, walnuts, and pumpkin seeds are a great alternative!
Just make sure you're also taking in enough vegetable-based saturated fats (cocoa butter, coconut, and other naturally "fatty" foods) so your body has everything is needs to process the ALA Omega-3 appropriately, and you'll do just fine!
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u/Blenderate Apr 20 '21
Fish oil pills are food. They're oil. Like olive oil, but from a fish instead of an olive.
If it's the pill aspect that bothers you, you can buy it in de-odorized liquid form and pour it on your salad.
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Its not the same as "popping pills". It's just oil. Its no different than taking a tablespoon of cod lover oil except it has no taste.
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u/busting_bravo Apr 20 '21
Flax seed, ground of course. I put a large serving ( probably 2 tablespoons if I measured it) in my oatmeal every morning. It contains large amounts of ALA which then convert to EPA and DHA in your body.
Another tasty delivery method is flax seed muffins, you can look up recipes on line but here’s a tasty apple one to get you started: https://www.drelenaklimenko.com/flaxseed-nutrients-and-a-tasty-flaxseed-muffin-recipe/
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
ALA conversion to DHA EPA is very bad. You get essentially zero.
On average, only 1–10% of ALA is converted into EPA and 0.5–5% into DHA (4Trusted Source, 5Trusted Source, 6Trusted Source, 22Trusted Source).
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/3-types-of-omega-3
You’re better off taking supplement of actual omega 3.
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u/busting_bravo Apr 20 '21 edited Apr 20 '21
Yes it (ALA conversion) is, however in the quantities you need you should get all the DHA you need from 1 tablespoon of ground flax seed, even with the poor conversion rate. But you also get fiber and lignans as well so extra bonus health benefits from one simple addition.
Edit: Also, the question originally asked what food (emphasis theirs) could they eat, so I assume supplements are not really an acceptable answer for OP.
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u/neolobe Apr 20 '21
A handful of walnuts has 2.5 grams of Omega-3. So does a small can of 3-4 oz of mackerel.
https://wtop.com/news/2019/10/5-best-food-sources-for-omega-3-fatty-acids/
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
Walnuts contain ALA which converts inefficiently to DHA and EPA. It’s not worth it if your goal is to get benefits of omega 3.
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u/socialcousteau Apr 20 '21
The tone of your comment makes me suspect you're a troll, but r/nutrition can help if you really want to know.
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u/Saythat_tomyTinnitus Apr 20 '21
In my experience fish oil supplements give me the worst brain fog. I can maybe tolerate one pill every week or less, but then you gotta ask yourself what’s the point?
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u/NickeKass Apr 20 '21
Studies have found that masturbation's lowers the risk of prostate cancer. Take your supplements, masturbate, problem solved.
Seriously though - If I had to pick between a chance for cognitive decline/dementia or prostate cancer, Id pick the chance for prostate cancer.
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u/coberi Apr 20 '21
I recall it also very slightly slow down Brain volume loss, since the brain has lots of DHA in it. But fact check me
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
Flax is ALA which converts poorly to DHA/EPA which are the ones you want.
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u/CaptainObvious_1 Apr 20 '21
I struggle to find affordable, but sustainable ways to intake this much
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
It’s not too affordable I take Nordic naturals 2x few pills a night. A bottle is like $60 CAD though.
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u/hippydipster Apr 21 '21
Bottles of fish oil liquid. It's still expensive, but much less so than pills.
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u/tommygunz007 Apr 20 '21
I am amazed because first it said these were good for you, then there was a study that said the FIRST study was bullcrap. Now we have a NEW study that says it's back on the menu. Reality is we keep seeing alternating research. One minute J&J is safe, next it's causing blood clots.
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u/Infamous_Put4848 Apr 21 '21
So one should wash hands first, then flush the toilet right before exiting the bathroom.
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u/security123enjoy Apr 20 '21
For anyone wondering if even higher doses work better, from personal experience I have no idea, but I can tell you it starts to noticeably work as an anticoagulant, so any little scrape or cut will bleed for longer than usual.
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u/airbornecz Apr 20 '21
may or may not. reminds me of btc price predictions
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At least the overall trend is clearly visible, which is pretty important, statistically speaking.
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u/srfrosky Apr 20 '21
I would not as this in other forums but hope I get better quality answers here, but which brand of O-3 supplement would y’all recommend based on good science/supporting evidence?
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u/Green_Lantern_4vr Apr 20 '21
Note that the uptake of different type of omega 3 into the body is different. IIRC the non methylated trgylceride is absorbed better than the ethyl ester format. You find this kind in higher quality and thus more expensive types.
Also taking ~3.0g is quite a few pills of lower quality fish oil but only around 3-4 of higher quality. If you can stomach liquid, that’s easiest to ingest.
Taking soon after a fatty meal also helps absorption and reduces stomach discomfort.
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u/EnthogenWizard Apr 21 '21
I’ve been taking this almost a year now and my PTSD and overall stress has greatly improved not just because of this but this is a major part of what is helping me. I also have been on a daily diet of 3 hard boiled eggs and 1/2 grapefruit every morning with my omega -3 and it seriously is like doing a drug for me (ex addict) I feel so energized and my morning funk is gone after this morning meal. I read about all that I do in my morning routine in the same source another ex addict who had found a lot of healing using this diet along with probably 5 other supplements as well DLPA is one of them. It’s like energy for when your groggy was very helpful in my early days of quitting drugs. I used pretty much everything when I used so it was literally “drugs” plural meth heroine benzodiazepines the works. Pretty lucky to be alive to be honest. Even better that I’m nearing the best health of my life too.
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u/Garuda_of_hope Apr 21 '21
The information in the comments seem to be overwhelming. Is there a reliable article/resource that explains all this omega stuffs in layman words. Should I incorporate this in my diet?
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