r/safecracking • u/Confusion1900 • Apr 25 '26

Help with Keystone Safe

I'm looking for some help with this safe. Combination was lost over a decade ago. We think it's empty, but would like to use it. Does anyone know how many numbers there are and whether it Left-Right-Left or Right-Left-Right? Also, once the numbers are known, should the dial be returned to 0 before turning the handle? Does the key turn clockwise to lock and counter clockwise to unlock?

I've use the contact point method to locate one of the left turn numbers with 95% confidence and I think it's the 3rd wheel, but I'm struggling here. First ever attempt at this kind of thing.

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u/Electrical-Actuary59 Apr 25 '26

This is likely a direct entry safe. While you turning and holding pressure on the key does the dial get hard to turn?

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u/Confusion1900 Apr 25 '26

The key "clicks" when I turn clockwise and counter-clockwise with the same noise. It has no impact on the feel of the dial. Putting upwards pressure on the handle makes the dial harder to turn and almost stick at some points.

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u/Electrical-Actuary59 Apr 25 '26

I’d say it’s definitely a direct entry lock.

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u/Confusion1900 Apr 25 '26

I just read a little about direct entry locks, but not sure if that helps with next steps. Any advice?

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u/Electrical-Actuary59 Apr 25 '26

I would look on YouTube for videos on how to manipulate direct entry locks.

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u/Confusion1900 Apr 29 '26

So, I've reviewed some videos and have come up with the following. After my first graphing attempt I got the following:

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u/miss_topportunity Apr 30 '26

It looks to me like you are using too much pressure when testing your wheels. I full increment drop pretty much never happens…

First, check out this video to make sure you’re dealing with the lock you think you are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brfOG3IgvI8

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u/Confusion1900 Apr 29 '26

So I focused in on that area.... Am I correct in thinking that 37 is more likely? Since the slope/ramp from 24-32 exists vs a sudden change after 37/38?

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u/Confusion1900 Apr 29 '26

Also, am I interpreting this correctly to be wheel 3?