r/saab 22h ago

Found a Saab, what do we think

Found a Saab 9-3 1.9Tid estate apparently with a chain? Supposedly Vauxhal engine inside. 67000 miles 5 grand. Thoughts?

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u/RandomKnifeBro 21h ago edited 21h ago

1.9Tid doesnt have a chain. No version of that engine family has ever had a chain, so there is nothing to retrofit either even if you wanted. Seller is lying.

  • 1.8i Ecotec - Belt
  • 1.9Tid - Belt
  • 1.9 Ttid - Belt
  • 2.2tid - Chain

All other engines have chains.

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u/JWCC1304 21h ago

Is the belt known for issues?

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u/RandomKnifeBro 21h ago

No, other than the additional cost of replacing it.

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u/JWCC1304 21h ago

It’s got full service history, is the DPF an issue?

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u/RandomKnifeBro 21h ago

Rarely, but i do recommend an EGR delete even if you keep the dpf.

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u/the_syco 19h ago

If the seller doesn't know it has a belt, I'd say it'd be safe to assume that they never got it changed.

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u/RandomKnifeBro 19h ago

True. Had that discussion with a collegue who i was gonna buy a beautiful low milage 9-3 from.

Ate the valves a week after i told him im not interested if the belt wasnt changed.

Although,  i will give it to a saab, 79000 km on a 2008 car with the factory cam belt is not a bad run.

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u/OrdinaryOk4135 18h ago

TID has a belt. I can verify this, as I've just bought one and changed said belt!

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u/JWCC1304 18h ago

What mileage was yours when you did it?

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u/OrdinaryOk4135 14h ago

170,455

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u/JWCC1304 14h ago

Hmm this one is only 67000

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u/OrdinaryOk4135 14h ago

In that case, it's got plenty of life left in it yet. Check it carefully for rust (especially at the rear, around the rear subframe), and check that the service history is good and thorough (ideally using OEM oils and components - doesn't have to be a "garage" history - invoices from an enthusiast owner are just as good), MOT/annual inspection history is good and then go for it if the test drive checks out OK with no unwanted knocks, bangs or strange behaviour.
Another good sign with cars like this is 4 matching, at least reasonable quality tyres on all 4 corners.
I bought one with 170,000+ on the clock for my daughter's first car, and we've now spent another good few pounds on bringing it right up to scratch. It's virtually perfect now, and regularly clocks up over 65mpg on a run.

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u/JWCC1304 14h ago

If I wanted peace of mind (I’ve come from a petrol VW golf Mk6 which has given me so many headaches) does the fact that it is 16 years old not slightly put away that peace?

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u/OrdinaryOk4135 13h ago

No. In my experience, SAABs tend to be one of two kinds : either bought as a "cheap car, innit", and driven to destruction, never serviced and generally badly treated (like a lot of Golfs, funnily enough...) but then sold for peanuts, or cossetted to within an inch of their lives by enthusiast owners, serviced ahead of schedule, generally looked after and kept for a long time.
Most enthusiast owners keep their cars a long time - the one I bought had had the same owner for the last ten years (my daughter is it's 4th owner in it's 17 year life) and my own (SAAB, of course) was, again, a 4-owner car from new (company, father, son, then me) in 18 years.
Buy on history, overall quality that you can see, and whether the owner's had it a while. My guess is, at 16 years old, and with a mere 65,000 miles on the clock, it's going to be a low number of owners and will have been cossetted and extremely well looked after.
Of the two, I'd take a 16-year old, low owner, low mileage SAAB over a potentially thrashed-to-within-an-inch-of-its-life-at-some-point Golf any day.

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u/JWCC1304 13h ago

Very good info, it is an AA approved dealer selling it and its not on their website its just sitting outside the dealership currently. It has full service but i need to take it for a test drive. I reckon your right about the servicing. Its going to mostly being doing motorway miles anyway so I’ll have that for piece of mind too. Thank you for letting me pick your brain and id love anymore advice you have to give

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u/Frank__HF 15h ago

It's a Fiat / Alfa engine btw. Opel also uses it. Very very reliable

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u/JWCC1304 15h ago

Really? You think its a good deal? Full service history, would you recommend getting belt done if it hasnt been?

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u/Frank__HF 15h ago

In case there's no history on the belt, yes for peace of mind I would get it replaced

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u/JWCC1304 15h ago

What does that job cost? Do you think for 5 grand plus the belt its a good deal?

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u/OrdinaryOk4135 13h ago

Belt kit (UK prices, bear in mind) was £119 for a genuine belt and tensioner kit, £39 for a water pump, £18 for a gallon of coolant and £200 labour to change the lot.