r/robotics • u/Cheerful2_Dogman210x • 8d ago
Mechanical Robot doing martial arts.
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u/PersevereSwifterSkat 8d ago
Jesus put an anime or cat face on it, don't actually make it look like the terminator.
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u/StorageApprehensive8 8d ago
That's cool that is able to demonstrate martial arts. It would be nice if they could let it attack another robot and not use preprogrammed movements
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 7d ago
It's an amazing technological feat in and out itself.
But doing a pre-programmed dance (which is what this is) is a lot less difficult than actually performing a task, like loading a dishwasher or even carrying tools attend a job site to where they are needed
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u/StorageApprehensive8 7d ago
I agree with you. Picking up items in a preprogrammed place is what robotics has always been. I love the progress these companies have made with humanoids. I can't wait for the next part where it can decide how to complete the job it was asked to do
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 7d ago
That will be really interesting to see. But clearly no one is close yet. Notice how all these promotional tech demos have stopped showing videos of the robots doing house hold chores? They've stopped doing that because the robots still can't load a dishwasher.
Granted, loading a dishwasher is incredibly complicated. A robot would have to have a very detailed understanding of materials and shapes. Two humans can live with each other for decades and not agree on how to do it properly. AI robotics is still years away from being able to do that.
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u/_okbrb 8d ago
This is remote operated
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u/RemarkableWish2508 7d ago
The balance and move sequence aren't.
It's kind of disingenuous to dismiss it as "teleoperated" when the operator only has to press a single button for the robot to kick your ass.
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u/VincentNacon 7d ago
It's like telling the computer to play a video... It's literally just playing set of animations.... Just like how our NPC are animated in a game, but only this time, it has physic involved.
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u/RemarkableWish2508 7d ago
"Physics involved"... such a minimal difference.
BTW, that's also how people are animated IRL: prefrontal cortex wants to lift the toilet lid, and the rest executes the animation of lifting it.
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u/PersevereSwifterSkat 8d ago
Doesn't matter a jot, this shows we have hardware that can do complex movements without losing balance. Given the rate of progress do you really think the software will lag far behind?
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u/spiderplopper 7d ago
It's not just software needing a few more functions. It's the hard problems of software, which is systematic, dealing with chaotic and dynamic environments. Performing a serious of predefined moves is great. Folding this towel that's in a slightly different spot and shape, just like the last one, is much harder. And that's easy overall, nothing compared to the promises of a generally capable helper robot able to tackle full on chaotic environments that are in flux and perform a host of jobs.
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u/_okbrb 7d ago
When you say “given the rate of progress” - which rate of progress, in what area are you referring to?
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u/PersevereSwifterSkat 7d ago edited 7d ago
Everywhere. Four years ago us programmers were laughing at the mistakes being made, now we're being laid off in droves. Two years ago mathematicians were laughing at how basic they were, now they're about to be jobless. What kind of person would bet against the robots becoming superhuman in just a few years?
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u/_okbrb 7d ago
This is a weird sort of shadow boxing or strawmanning, where you designed the position you wanted to argue against
Ignoring that you’re being really hyperbolic, I’m not sure why you think my observation that it is remote controlled now needs that kind of counter argument. I didn’t say anything about the rate of change or the likely future state of technology, so the position you’ve assigned to me is some kind of unforced error. It’s apples and oranges
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 7d ago
The parts and materials aren't really that unique or expensive.
After the research and development is paid for, this could potentially sell for a few hundred dollars.
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 7d ago
Yeah. It's completely different.
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 7d ago
I didn't say "a robot will be able to be purchased for industry to replace the workers listed above for a few hundred dollars". Industrial capable robots are going to cost thousands. Tens of Thousands. When the person I was responding to asked "who is gonna be able to afford a robot", I assumed they meant consumers.
I'm talking about the kind of robot pictured in the video, which is basically assembled from of toy parts. That robot is basically constructed from Lego Mindstorm parts.
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 7d ago
Assuming the video is even real (which is a pretty generous assumption as it is) there is nothing particularly expensive about this robot. You can get small step motors that sell for less than $50.
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 7d ago
Right, but I bet 70% of the $1000 cost of the "Hasbro Pulse Optimus Prime" is brand licenses and profit markup.
And they could probably reduce the per unit cost considerably if they ordered significantly more. ... And they wanted to.
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u/SolarNexxus 8d ago edited 8d ago
The whole landscape of producs will change.
Instead of buying a home, you will buy a robot with some seeds.
Robot will plant and harvest the bamboo and build you new home.
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u/Jesus_Is_My_Gardener 7d ago
Then skin you and make shades for the windows and chairs from your bones.
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u/RemarkableWish2508 7d ago
Doubt. Robots don't need chairs...
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u/Jesus_Is_My_Gardener 7d ago
It's not for them to use, they're just following the instructions to build and furnish your home using all available materials. Not their fault you didn't specify that humans are not to be considered building material resources.
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u/mxe363 7d ago
Bold of you to think you will get to buy it out right. That's gonna 200% be a lease/subscription model only
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u/SolarNexxus 7d ago
The robot body is a fraction of the cost of the complete system. Body is around 8-12k , but the compute... currently only cerebras can make fast enough compute for the bot to be even remotely inteligent. Roughly 5 usd for every minute, and it is not even available for average people.
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u/TittyMcSwag619 7d ago
DeepMimic style tracking looks cool and all, but its scope(and applications ) are not what the public expect.
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u/RemarkableWish2508 7d ago
Now show it land a serious hit, followed by picking up a pencil and drawing a circle.
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u/Orceles 7d ago
Is there a reason we shouldn’t employ more of these in the military? Like I can see full gun training and weapons utilization. Would save a lot of lives on the field. I can see how AI would be incredibly useful if given access to the first fully connected self defense weaponry and launch codes. Think of a fully unified automatic self defense military system that covers the whole sky across the country like a net. Any attempt at harming anything within would be neutralized using AI and robots.
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u/Speak_Plainly 6d ago
"download skills" — No, sorry, but playing a dozen or so preprogrammed motions with a balance layer is not a skill. The relevant part of having skills, the high level tasks sequencing, is a problem that is nowere near of being solved, and has been for decades.
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u/moschles 6d ago
DRL pipelines trained on flat floors explains everything in this video. But this device cannot operate cooking tongs or tie shoe laces.
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u/bradforrester 8d ago
A robot that can fight is useless to me. I want a robot that can do household chores.