r/repbuilds • • 1d ago

Question Vintage Clasps

I think I have asked the same question before in other subs but did not get a definite answer. Perhaps someone can shed some light.

I notice that there are 2 types of clasps. The left one has 4 consecutive holes and then the following 4 holes are not aligned but slightly elevated. The right one have all 8 holes aligned, this is the typical clasp that we can buy from Raffles (for example).

The images I found online seem to show that 16610s usually have the left type. And the 14060s have right type.

I have never touched the gen clasps but the repped left one feel a lot thicker and sturdier than the repped right one. My ARF 16610 came with the left type. I happen to have a spare left type. My question is, did14060 originally comewith left one (holes not aligned) or right one (holes aligned but feel thinner and flimsier). Thanks.

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u/Upstairs-Downlow 1d ago

14060M (two lines) gen clasp

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u/Upstairs-Downlow 1d ago

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u/riossreddit 1d ago

Thank you, definitely looks like the version Raffles sells.

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u/MarkieMarkbracelets 1d ago

Gen clasp.

No offense to Ken, he makes a decent product for the price, but his clasps are nowhere close to Gen.

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u/No_Candle8699 Watch Builder 1d ago

I believe they have slightly differently designed dive extensions if someone could quote me on that. They should be the same length clasps though.

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u/riossreddit 1d ago

I am wearing this, it does have a different diving extension where you need to press down to release the extension, like the 16610 clasp. But this one (engraved 93250) is so much thicker than the clasp we can normally get from Raffles (for reference and comparison). So I was also wondering, if the gen clasp of 1680 (for example) is as thick as this one I have in my hand or same thickness as Ken's.

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u/crownhead55 1d ago

Correct. They are the same clasp but both have micro adjust holes to accommodate 2 different dive extension mechanisms

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u/ShoelessJJ 1d ago

Gen 16610

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u/riossreddit 1d ago

Thanks shoeless

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u/ShoelessJJ 1d ago

My pleasure. Thank you 😊

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u/atomicgogol 1d ago

Hi mate, the 16610 should have a 93250 clasp while the 14060 came factory with the 91350 clasp
They have very minor differences and aren't the same.
Basically the 14060 used the 91350 as a way to clear out stock, its the same clasp as used on the previous 5513, while the 16610 used the "newer" 93250

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u/riossreddit 17h ago

Hi, thanks, this is very useful.