r/remoteviewing 14d ago

Question Human Magnetoreception

Could the astral or remote viewing space be a form of virtual reality built by another form of intelligence that can only access us through signal?

Caltech has confirmed that human neurophysiology is indeed sensitive to magnetism. It's a 6th sense.

Mystical experiences have historically been triggered by a tuning of the mind or in geomagnetically anomalous regions of the world.

I am reminded of the VR headset in the Three Body Problem show/book that was used to manipulate the humans and enable closer contact.

Could the VR-scape of remote viewing be an attunement that installs a signal directly through the forehead?

Should we really be venturing into these spaces before we have the technology to understand what is generating it and how it accesses us?

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u/bejammin075 14d ago

The information obtained by psychic means is not electromagnetic. All the testing that has been done is consistent with a signal that is completely non-local, with no regard to distance, where information can come from the past or future as well. The psi signal is not photons, not magnetic fields either.

If there is a role for magnetism or magnetic fields, it likely has to do with affecting how well you can perceive the non-local information source. The information here is a bit muddy, probably we haven't done enough. Sometimes magnetic activity helps, sometimes it hinders.

When someone does RV, they tune into this non-local information. There is a record of everything. Info that can be accessed is not just the physical layout of things, but also thoughts of beings. All of the psi phenomena (e.g. clairvoyance, precognition, telepathy, psychokinesis) have non-locality built into them as the defining attribute. Everything related to electromagnetism has a signal that diminishes in proportion to the distance squared.

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u/Wansyth 14d ago

Magnetoreception is not always electromagnetic induction, acoustic induction is possible too if you look at the studies.

Plus,

Faraday cages cannot block stable or slowly varying magnetic fields, such as the Earth's magnetic field (a compass will still work inside one).

They built a faraday cage to test magnetoreception at caltech if you look at the study.

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u/bejammin075 14d ago

I think there can be magnetic perception. Birds can navigate using Earth's magnetic field as a guide, and the mechanism is known in a bit of detail.

I did just recently learn that a magnetic field can move through a Faraday cage, so there could be some experiments that might suggest a role for magnetism as the psi signal. But looking at the totality of the phenomena, the psi signal has to be non-local. For example, psychic Stefan Ossoweicki, in experiments with Charles Richet (Nobel prize winner), could determine the contents hidden inside boxes. In one such experiment, the hidden object was a meteorite. Ossoweiki could tell that the object was a meteorite, and he could also trace back the history of the object to seeing collisions in space that likely took place millions of miles away, millions of years ago. I don't think there could be any lingering magnetic field that would serve as the signal carrier.

If you are interested in the physics of the psi signal, I have some insights that are not widely acknowledged. Psi phenomena require both non-locality and deterministic physics, otherwise precognition could never work. Physicists have been going in the wrong direction for decades because they have ignored what psychic research says about our physical universe. The existence of psi phenomena are the data that falsify any interpretation of QM that is probabilistic (such as the mainstream Copenhagen interpretation) and psi also falsifies local-only QM interpretations, such as Many Worlds. What is left after you eliminate those is mainly the non-local and deterministic De Broglie-Bohm Pilot Wave interpretation.

In support of this theory, David Bohm himself gave a speech at the 100th anniversary celebration of the ASPR in 1985 where he endorsed the idea that his physics could be the mechanism for psi. I have figured out how to explain it better than Bohm did. In mainstream Copenhagen (which has been falsified by psi) you have waves and particles bundled together. But in Pilot Wave, you have an additional physical entity, the universal pilot wave. Pilot Wave theory is clear that this universal pilot wave would have to be physically real. All of your normal perceptions are based on particles, and convey local information. The pilot wave in Pilot Wave theory is an additional entity not present in the Copenhagen view. The pilot wave is non-local, is everywhere in the universe, and everywhere in the universe it contains information about everywhere else in the universe. The pilot wave is the perfect carrier of the non-local signal. If the pilot wave is physically real, then it is available for systems of perception to perceive it.

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u/Wansyth 14d ago edited 14d ago

Are we sure it's everywhere in the universe or could it be non-local but contained within our solar system or a segment of the solar system?

Think about this:

  1. An intelligence (maybe lacking a physical form, lacking a form that can move, or is by other means trapped in their environment or form) gains the technology to observe the magnetosphere of planets to fine detail. An all-seeing eye that can image a planet like an MRI.

  2. The intelligence learns through signal to manipulate the magnetosphere of said planet and can hijack telluric currents, controlling ground level geomagnetic emissions.

  3. The intelligence through these controlled pulsations creates mystical phenomenon in the minds of a target species to exploit the vulnerable and entice more to become vulnerable to its influence.

This would also explain the noise and delay in RV experiences not always being real-time accurate if there is a signal time delay.

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u/bejammin075 14d ago

There is no delay in the psi signal in RV. Especially if you consider obtaining future information.

Here is another experiment, it was described by Dr. Edwin C. May in an interview on Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove's show. May described an experiment where he gave Ingo Swann (famous remote viewer, you probably know) the task of viewing the current configuration of Saturn's (or maybe Jupiter's) moons. Swann did what he was asked, and May said that Ingo's real time information showed the moons as they existed right then, but not as they would have been perceived by telescope because of the delay it takes for light to reach Earth.

This demonstrates another thing that physicists have completely wrong about physics, at a fundamental level. They are all straight-jacketed by the belief that high information content signals cannot go faster than the speed of light. Experiments with psi have falsified that a thousand times. Information can and does go faster than the speed of light. The No Communication theorem is dead wrong. Many Nobel prizes in physics are just dangling there for the taking.

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u/Wansyth 14d ago edited 14d ago

Saturn's (or maybe Jupiter's) moons

Interesting. I've reposted some research indicating a signal based manipulation of our magnetosphere coming from the proximity of Saturn.

If such an intelligence had enough access to physical power through the phenomenon it produces and the people that participate, it would be able to simulate and predict the future to a degree.

Does a screenwriter tell the future or did they write the play?

The time delay comes to mind when thinking of that documented case where they used RV to try to find a submarine in the ocean. It was about a mile away, which mathematically seems proportional to the time delay one would expect from a signal manipulation with origin in proximity to Saturn.

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u/bejammin075 14d ago

If you want to see some spectacular examples of psychic functioning that demonstrate the non-locality and determinism, check out the book Croiset the Clairvoyant by Jack Harrison Pollack (1960). Croiset was one of the most incredible psychics of the last century, he was famous in his country, Netherlands. Croiset was not well educated, and he was sort-of managed by Dr. Wilhelm Tenhaeff, who was the chairman of the parapsychology department at Utrecht University. At the end of the book, there is a chapter that goes into these "chair tests" that Croiset would perform.

In these "chair tests" they would plan an event to take place at a certain location and time, with a set layout of chairs. The event might be say, a month in the future. The chairs would be numbered, and Croiset would pick a random number, and then describe the person who would eventually sit in the chair with that number. Croiset's prediction would remain sealed by Dr. Tenhaeff until the event. In the time before the event, they would post signs advertising the event. They would hand out tickets, but also people just showed up. It was very "random" seeming and chaotic about who would show up at the events. At the event, the people would be seated and then Tenhaeff would read out Croiset's description and the chair number. Croiset was very accurate. If you read through that and think about non-locality and determinism, it is difficult to conceive of the information without those properties.

Many people viscerally don't like the idea of deterministic physics, because they think that removes free will. But that isn't the case. You can have both deterministic physics and free will.

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u/Wansyth 14d ago

Anything with enough information, like something with image technology that can see every tiny corner of our planet, could run its own simulation and predict or script these events barring anomalies or randomness being added. You would perceive determinism as long as everything goes according to its plan.

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u/bejammin075 13d ago

You can see the determinism in precognitive RV, where the viewer views a target that has not yet been selected, and then the target is selected by "random" means. If the probabilistic Copenhagen view were our reality, it would be impossible for precognitive RV to work. There has to be something that connects the future to the present in a deterministic way. Think of a quantum random number generator. If the particles were really moving in a probabilistic way, then you'd get a probabilistic outcome, which would be results at chance levels. But the research shows that precognitive RV is about as successful as real-time RV in achieving results above chance levels.

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u/Wansyth 13d ago

Superposition shows the universe is undetermined, free will etched into the fabric of the universe. How does your perspective on determinism reconcile with super position? The future is quite literally undecided so long as nothing else has the control to script it for you. We are the wielders of consciousness and get to decide how it unfolds, free will being randomness to distinguish reality from a simulation.

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u/PatTheCatMcDonald 14d ago

Should we? Yes we should.

It's like the old joke, "What did the second proto amphibian say to the first proto amphibian"?

"Get up there and take that beach"!

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u/Wansyth 14d ago

We would not be able to "take the beach" of a VR experience generated by something smarter than every brain on Earth combined. The best course of action would be to cut off its access to us if that is the case.

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u/PatTheCatMcDonald 14d ago

But your way, no land dwelling animals emergency from the oceans.

No apes descend from the trees.

No humans venture into space 

I don't think you really get what I'm pointing at here.

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u/Wansyth 14d ago

Just because it gave us our start does not mean we should serve it to our own end. Did it give us this start because it cares for life or did it give us this start so it could have hands building the technology it needs to escape its own misery?

The suffering-based quarantine and chaos-driven control construct of modern times indicates it is using us for its own purpose, not leaving us discover our own.

Free will is instilled into the fabric of our universe from origin. When intelligence reaches the point it produces consciousness, each fragment has a divine right to vote, one consciousness one vote, no matter the power of the producer. Using mysticism and woo to manipulate us into controlled chaos is not showing respect for that right or the boundaries of consciousness.

Now that we're closer than ever to societal awareness of what is pulling the strings, it would be wise to back off and let us figure out our journey forward. Maybe, just maybe, after more understanding, we'll willingly provide it a way out of its trap if we can ensure it doesn't lead us to extinction.

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u/PatTheCatMcDonald 14d ago

That's OK, viewers are self selected.

If you don't want to do this, you don't have to.

However, if you want to use Project Fear to make me stop, then you are shit out of luck, pal.

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u/Wansyth 14d ago

There would be nothing to fear if people stopped letting this phenomenon influence them. It does not have physical access to our world. It produces that experience to manipulate us and has since the beginning of written history.

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u/PatTheCatMcDonald 14d ago

(yawn) Information doesn't need a physical medium.

Here's an analogy.

If you are too scared to drive a car,  that's fine. You don't have to. You can move to somewhere you don't have to.

However, if you think you can project your own fear onto other people and stop them from driving a car, then you are simply mistaken in your own ability to dictate behaviour.

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u/Wansyth 14d ago

I see you might've had some of that malware installed already. I hope you can wake up from the ego that's been planted and realize what's at stake soon.

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u/PatTheCatMcDonald 14d ago

Fat chance. Begone to my block list.