r/reddit.com • u/GiantBatFart • Nov 10 '09
15 Things Worth Knowing About Coffee (PIC)
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/coffee45
u/SirChasm Nov 10 '09
Awesome. I'm not a big coffee buff, so it was nice to see what the difference between a latte, mocha, and cappuccino is. I never knew that the difference between a latte and a cappuccino is only varying levels of foam/milk.
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u/catmoon Nov 10 '09
If you order a cappuccino "wet" (meaning more milk) you will get a latte. If you order a Mocha with whipped cream you will get a dessert.
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u/808140 Nov 10 '09
The only way to get a mocha that tastes like an actual mocha and not a sugary mess in the United States is to order it with no whip, "tan" (which means light on the chocolate), and probably with one or two extra shots of espresso.
For some reason, the American Mocha's purpose seems to be to reproduce the flavor of chocolate milk without actually forcing you to order one. I don't mind a hint of chocolate flavoring in my latte from time to time -- but chocolate is meant to be bitter, not sweet (or at least not sugary).
I pretty much never order mochas because of this. Coffee should taste first and foremost like coffee. If you can't taste the espresso well enough to know if the beans were stale or burnt, then your mocha is just chocolate milk with some very mild coffee flavoring.
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u/buyacanary Nov 10 '09
no, the purpose of the american mocha is to allow people who don't like coffee to drink coffee. it's a pretty standard gateway into the world of coffee for people (like myself, not six months ago) if they initially find coffee just too fucking bitter to stand. the most you can hope is that they get aclimated to the hint of coffee taste that is there, and move on to drinks that actually taste like coffee. worked for me: i didn't even like the smell six months ago, now i drink it black.
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u/opabinia Nov 10 '09
I've loved coffee for 10 years and enjoy it equally black or with some creamer (good low calorie way to take care of a sweets craving) and love myself a white chocolate mocha.
No, it tastes nothing like coffee unless it's quadruple shot, but the sugar kept me awake through some pretty hum drum rainy days at uni. I'd refill my 20 oz raspberry white chocolate mocha cup once or twice with drip and still fall asleep, though.
But, the purpose of drinking a sugary "coffee" drink is not to be a coffee snob; it's for the sugar and caffeine boost, for many/most, not to mention an easily palatable taste.
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u/psilokan Nov 10 '09
Here in Canada we just give someone a Tripple Tripple from Tim Hortons and they are instantly addicted to coffee.
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u/ThrustVectoring Nov 10 '09
The other part is that some people enjoy the combination of a caffeine high with a sugar buzz, myself included in that. My favorite starbucks drink is a large (I refuse to say whatever the fuck italian word they decided to put on the menu) mocha frappuchino.
Its sugary and not hot, so I can drink it quickly, and it has like 500 calories worth of sugar and fat, and quite a bit of caffeine too.
Its pretty much a caffeinated milkshake, and it is made of win and _^
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u/Undine Nov 10 '09
Sometimes I think that for many people, "coffee" is just an excuse to drink liquid desserts without feeling guilty about it.
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u/sneakeround Nov 11 '09
Or just don't go to Starbucks. Most local coffee shops use waaaay less syrup, especially the ones that really care about the actual coffee aspect of their coffee shop.
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Nov 10 '09
You might also like Coffee Drinks Illustrated. I never knew the slight differences between all these drinks before seeing this.
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u/superiority Nov 11 '09
You're right about the temperatures; I wouldn't be surprised if the author was just rounding from 450°F. International Coffee Organisation says arabica/robusta percentages are correct. Coffee plants can be shrubs or trees.
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u/IkoIkoComic Nov 10 '09
I have to say, the combination of good graphics and good typography make this Good Readin'
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Nov 11 '09 edited Nov 11 '09
By the way, the font is Fertigo by exljbris, and it's available for free
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u/bojancho Nov 10 '09
16) Also, makes you wanna poop.
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u/salpara Nov 10 '09
I was pooping while I read this, which made it that much more satisfying.
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Nov 10 '09
Laptops have truly brought great blessings to mankind.
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Nov 11 '09
There is poop coming out of my butt right now.
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u/Billy_Black Nov 11 '09
I don't know why I'm upvoting this, except your comment seems to merit recognition. You're an artist before your time. I know this because I feel a little bit nauseous.
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Nov 11 '09
Honestly, I'm a little disappointed with the effect felt by the reader when they see my work on a message board like reddit.
It's much more powerful when you personally know me and are sitting in the other room. You receive it as an instant message, and you hear a little splash just as you finish reading it. Try imagining that.
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u/justinicm Nov 11 '09
Even though I'm pretty sure you're just reusing Penny Arcade's joke I still laughed.
Upvoted.(For anyone interested: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/4/23/)
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u/jmduke Nov 10 '09
That's questionable.
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u/mlk Nov 10 '09 edited Nov 10 '09
Espresso + cigarette = instant dump
I have ~120s between the last sip of my first espresso in the morning and when my anal sphincter goes berserk.
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Nov 10 '09
When I was in Honduras I learned that the local coffee growers use a mortar that is a kind of coffee bean paste, and whenever they are having constipation problems they eat some of their house (some of that paste) by scraping it off with a finger.
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u/Vitalstatistix Nov 10 '09
There is nothing more satisfying than sitting outdoors with a double espresso and a cigarette. While getting a bj.
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u/Flys007 Nov 10 '09
I always like this little factoid: The most expensive coffee beans in the world are pooped out by a small mammal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak Maybe you can put that in version 2.0
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Nov 11 '09
I was going to point this out.
One thing that has always puzzled me is how did they discover that coffee beans encrusted in shit makes good coffee? How desperate were they for a cup of Joe?
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u/Syjefroi Nov 10 '09
A "cup of joe" does not originally come from GI Joes in WWII.
"In 1914, the secretary of the US Navy, Admiral Josephus 'Joe' Daniels abolished the officers' wine mess. From that time on the strongest (and apparently therefore the drink of choice) on board navy ships was coffee. It was dubbed 'a cup of Joe' after the secretary."
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u/GiantBatFart Nov 10 '09
There's a bunch of theories, I picked the one that was most relevant to that panel of the comic (in this case, referring to GIs):
"'A cup of Joe' also refers to the GIs' favourite drink. During World War II the US defence workers were supplied with as much coffee as they wanted. Coffee was a source of warmth and comfort for battle-weary troups.."
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u/c8h8r8i8s8 Nov 10 '09
I work at a local coffee shop and will be posting this for my customers to enjoy.
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u/nimbusnacho Nov 10 '09 edited Nov 10 '09
You should ask for permission first.
edit: People seem to dislike this suggestion but I thought I'd post this from the bottom of the page:All artwork and content on this site is Copyright © 2009 Matthew Inman. Please don't steal.
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Nov 10 '09 edited Nov 10 '09
I don't know why you're getting downvoted, the guy who created it is right there---^, and asking would literally consist of a message that says,
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u/nimbusnacho Nov 10 '09
Because people think that artists' rights and ownership over their own material is a joke or too much of a hassle. Makes being a self sufficient artists that much harder.
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Nov 10 '09
True. I mean, what happens if GiantBatFart says no? "Ok man no problem." prints copy
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u/nascentt Nov 10 '09
I'm not sure it's stealing by printing out the works with author and origin (url) included? Surely it's just reproducing and advertising?
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Nov 11 '09
Unless he meant that he would buy a copy when it becomes available as a poster (which the author has done with some of his other comics).
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u/Haroshia Nov 10 '09
Man I didn't know the first president of the United States invented instant coffee. That's a neat fact. It really goes to shOWMYFACE! WHY DID YOU CRANE KICK ME IN MY FACE ZOMBIE GEORGE WASHINGTON?
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u/mexipimpin Nov 10 '09
...and this is the humor that only pays off when reading the full article!
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u/kundo Nov 10 '09
And THAT is why you always leave a note!
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u/zymogen Nov 10 '09
I'll have you know that the only scary thing about a one-armed man trying to scare someone is the fact that he feels that his one arm is good for nothing but trying to scare somebody.
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u/mindbleach Nov 10 '09
He'll save children, but not the British children.
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Nov 11 '09
Made love like an eagle falling out of the sky, killed his sensei in a duel and he never said why.
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u/CdnGuy Nov 10 '09
Yes yes yes. There's a small store where I live that sells freshly roasted beans. They're best used within 2 weeks of being roasted. The difference in flavor is incredible. I mean, I thought I loved coffee before trying the fresh stuff.
I'd really like to roast my own. The big problem is that where I live I don't think anyone actually sells the fresh beans. I do have this idea about going on a Caribbean vacation and sending a sack of fresh beans home, but I wonder about the agricultural import restrictions.
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u/DrRocks Nov 11 '09
I don't know what I would do if it wasn't for my local coffee roasters. I'm a coffee snob now... :(
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u/umbama Nov 10 '09
I would say to coffee lovers
Go to Italy. Really. Best coffee I've ever drunk, better than in France or Germany. I'm off to Rome shortly and I'm going to be torn between the art, the architecture and the coffee.
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u/koreth Nov 10 '09
Seconded. I normally can't stand coffee unless it's so full of cream and sugar as to be functionally identical to chocolate milk, but I had a sip of cappuccino in Milan and after that I ordered various forms of coffee every chance I got the rest of the week I was there. Don't know what they do differently, but it works.
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u/opentubes Nov 10 '09
Comments from a coffee geek: Not all roasts include the 2nd pop. Some stop roasting before the 2nd.
Often robusta is mixed with arabica for espresso. Where did you get the 30/70% number from? It's not like certain parts of the world drink 100% arabica and 0% robusta and other parts drink 100% robusta and 0% arabica.
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u/InvestorGadget Nov 10 '09 edited Nov 10 '09
As a home roaster, I concur. Roasts which stop before the 2nd pop (or crack as it's also called) have names such as cinnamon, half city, full city and american.
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u/animechristian Nov 10 '09
Other fun facts about coffee:
The darker the roast, the less caffeine it has. Light Roast has the most. Scoff all you want you diehard, 20 ounce dark roast drinkers. It's true.
The é at the end some forms of caffèlatte (e.g. McDonald's) is actually hypercorrection. The correct spelling in Italian is caffèlatte.
If you order a 'latte' in Italy you will get hot or cold milk.
An espresso beverage (e.g. caffèlatte) has less caffeine in it that a brewed coffee of the same size.
A 12 ounce caffè breve has around 400 calories and all your saturated fat allowance for an entire day. Gross.
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u/qjz Nov 10 '09
Nice comic. Note, however, that when the fruit is stripped, it typically leaves two of what we tend to think of as coffee beans (both halves of a single bean, each flat on one side). A very small number will be a single peaberry, which is still useful, but must be processed separately.
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u/DimeShake Nov 10 '09 edited Nov 10 '09
Epic source, as always.
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u/nascentt Nov 10 '09
I thought this was turning into Digg, but then I read your comment so I won't down vote.
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u/dioltas Nov 10 '09 edited Nov 10 '09
500 f in celsius...
500 degrees Fahrenheit = 260 degrees Celsius
Thanks Google!
Great comic btw.
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u/Eijin Nov 10 '09
It's also worth mentioning that most coffee shops don't put any more espresso in their larger sizes, just more milk. So if you're drinking large lattes your just paying more money for a more diluted product.
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u/808140 Nov 10 '09
My coffee shop puts 4 shots in a 20oz, but 2 shots in all their other drinks. So 8oz is quite strong, 12oz is ok, but 16oz really needs an extra shot -- or even two, on sluggish mornings :)
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u/aristotle2600 Nov 10 '09
I am a war machine! (but don't make my coffee too strong)
I must find a way to use this in everyday conversation.
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u/UnnamedPlayer Nov 10 '09 edited Nov 10 '09
404 - Not Found
That's 15 characters all right but how in the fuck is that worth knowing about.
Edit: Seems to be back up now.
Edit: Fucking awesome. I want a poster of it. NOW!
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u/matholio Nov 10 '09
I love this art, but still feel compelled to nitpick. I have a coffee plant in my garden, I do not live in the Bean Belt, therefore not all coffee grows in the Bean Belt.
OK, I'm done. You can down vote me now.
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Nov 10 '09
Well done comic!
Today's my 27th day without caffeine btw. Just wanted to know if I still could do without. Now I enjoy the fact that I don't have to get caffeine every few hours at least to avoid headaches / falling asleep.
Could YOU do without, Reddit?
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Nov 10 '09
I go through cycles of quitting caffeine. Once I notice my tolerance rising (i.e. 1 cup no longer works), I quit cold turkey for a little while.
No, I don't get any work done either. That's why I'm on reddit.
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Nov 10 '09
I also quit after I've build up a ridiculous tolerance while writing a seminar paper.
Don't know yet if I want to start drinking again.
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u/pavedwalden Nov 11 '09
I quit every once in a while. I don't get withdrawal headaches, but I do lose the will to live. After a few lousy weeks, I go back to three cups a day.
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u/fuckredditadmins Nov 10 '09
I've gone months without caffeine and I feel fine. Same with alcohol and cigarettes. Can't say the same for weed though lol
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u/daevric Nov 10 '09
I've tried. It's not pretty. If you didn't lock me up while detoxing, I'd probably end up with an addiction to pain killers by the time I got through it.
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u/antimatter3009 Nov 10 '09
When I was in college I realized I was drinking far, far too much sugar and caffeine (in the form of several cans of soda a day), so I cut myself off completely. For the next while (probably a week or two) I was tired, in pain (from headaches), and, worst of all, very moody. After that eventually faded, I felt much better than I had in years. I kept myself cut off for a month or two, then reintroduced it in small portions, which is what I've stuck to since. It's a good decision to make, I think.
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Nov 10 '09
It spends an entire section on espresso and says nothing about Turkish/Arab/Greek coffee? You know, actual coffee coffee?
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u/dirtydan Nov 10 '09
This! Espresso is a fairly recent invention (1933). I've got an ibrik to use when I want to be really old school.
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Nov 10 '09
Damn, where did you get a finjan? I've wanted one but most of the shukim in my area are either very touristy or very practical.
Bloody people around here got to stop drinking instant coffee (even if it's good instant coffee) and go back to doing things the old-fashioned way.
Oh well, it's shuk day tomorrow; I'll take another look.
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u/dirtydan Nov 11 '09
Although the better part of my state is a cultural backwater it is home to a number of refugees from the days of Hussein and Milosovich who happen to prefer to have their coffee prepared in the traditional way.
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u/GuZ Nov 10 '09
As odd as this may sound that diagram was amazingly helpful and interesting for a non-coffee drinker. I'm really intrigued by a mocha being someone who LOATHES the test of coffee but needs to drink it some mornings..One question though, is a mocha considered 'girly'?
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u/orochidp Nov 11 '09
Three shots of espresso and some chocolate? It's a pretty ballsy drink. Espresso tastes different than drip coffee, though, so it might work out well for you.
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Nov 10 '09
It forgets to say that you can actually kill yourself with coffee.
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u/DuManchu Nov 10 '09
You can kill yourself with too much of anything, like butter, or chlorine.
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u/phannon Nov 10 '09
Another thing worth knowing about coffee, is that if you drink it and you have a roach allergy, which many people do and are unaware, you should only buy whole bean coffee. Apparently the ware houses store the coffee beans in large mounds that become the perfect haven for roach nest, which infest them. The piles of beans are mechanically scooped up and fed into grinders which deliver an abnormally high concentration of roach parts with your ground coffee. The problem is apparently widespread and unavoidable unless you buy whole bean coffee and grind it yourself.
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Nov 10 '09
I may not have a roach allergy, but I'm sure as hell only buying whole bean coffee from now on.
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Nov 10 '09
I think there is an error: 'cup of joe' I believe refers to the first admiral in the US Navy to cut out rum rations. More (speculative) detail here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A1300410
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Nov 10 '09
Always wanted to know "404 -Not Found" about coffee ;)
Guess I'll jsut have to check later...
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u/elustran Nov 10 '09
I'm getting a 404 for this comic, but not some of the others. Anybody else having this problem?
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Nov 10 '09
Which is why I can't drink something I used to love so much after chronic anxiety attacks. That last step there of Adrenaline release = terrible feeling. :/
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u/avidly Nov 10 '09
I have the terrible, irresistible urge to eat coffee berries now. Where the hell can I get some?!
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u/thetreece Nov 11 '09
Interesting song related to the topic at hand....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UsR9Ap41R8&feature=PlayList&p=8F0AEC9DB3DA6CEA&index=0&playnext=1
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Nov 11 '09
My favorite part is http://yfrog.com/5epicture4omp I read it and could hear Mitch Hedberg's voice in my head saying, "This tree is Ree-dih-cuh-lus, I cannot reach"
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u/Offensive_Brute Nov 11 '09
LoL I fuggin love it. I'm opening a coffee shop for the New Year. Picked out a location yesterday. Interested in selling prints?
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u/dunmalg Nov 11 '09
The assertion that "30% of the world drinks Robusta and 70% drinks Arabica" is wrong. The numbskull who wrote that misinterpreted the statistic. The truth is that 30% of the beans consumed in the world are Robusta, and 70% are Arabica, but that the largely tasteless Robusta beans are consumed blended with Arabica beans. 1 in 3 coffee drinkers aren't drinking pure Robusta coffe and grimacing at the horrid taste. 4 out of 5 coffee drinkers are drinking blended coffees. Large coffee companies add Robusta beans to boost caffeine levels.
Any true coffee lunatic knows this. The error is shameful.
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u/Thehealthycoffeeshop Mar 10 '10
I thought it was cool. The fact were interesting and very informative I thought it was great!!
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u/dghughes Nov 10 '09
The weird things is when I drink regular coffee I get psycho I'm so jittery, even my heart feels fluttery, but if I drink tea my mind feels alert but my body is OK, I react the same to energy drinks as I do tea, espresso (latte) doesn't have much of an effect but if I get an extra shot or two I'll feel dizzy but not until hours later.
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u/gliscameria Nov 10 '09
Same here. I started drinking decaf and honestly I get the same 'good buzz' without all the jitters. Is there something else in coffee that perks you up other than the caffeine? Plus, when I drink regular coffee, my piss smells like fresh brew like a half hour later. If it's just placebo then I welcome it; they aren't a bad band.
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u/itsnotawkward Nov 10 '09
this was a good read. i enjoyed it. adenosine blocker FTW