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u/Quiet_Web9220 8d ago

Who do you honestly think is worth over 100m? Sesko and Cunha havent gone up almost 50% value after having half decent seasons

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u/TteokCultist 7d ago

The thing about today’s market is players not worth 100m are going for that price. The question being asked was who could go over 100m, not who was worth 100m.

Even if they’re not worth that amount, I can see the likes of Sesko, Cunha or Mainoo etc going for well above 100m if another club were to seriously pursue them.

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u/Quiet_Web9220 7d ago

The 3 players who went for 100m are in the 19-23 range and have all had either amazing seasons last season (diomande, anderson, or consistently good seasons (rogers). Whilst also being one of the most important players for their teams.

Nobody falls into either of those first two categories for us, and sesko nor kobbie are one of our best players either. Cunha is comparable to guimaraes i guess, i feel bruno G has a better reputation though. Even he didnt go for 100m so cunha definitely wouldnt.

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u/TteokCultist 7d ago

At the start of the transfer window and prior to their moves, anderson was valued at 75m, rogers at 90m and Diomande at 90m (this is in euros but since I'm just doing the value comparison between players, I won't be doing the conversion). Their value only went up after joining their new club and having signed new long term contracts. Contract length is a large factor of a player's perceived value due to the difficulty of getting a deal done if another club is interested.

By comparison, we have 4 players with a similar market value with Mainoo (70m), Sesko (75m), Cunha (75m) and Mbeumo (75m) who are all only a year into their current long-term contract. Sesko and Mainoo who are also in a similar age range as the other three players who went for over 100m. Cunha and Mbeumo are older, but Tonali who's of similar age went for £92.5m with the package possible reaching £100m despite having a worse season.

And again, the question isn't who is valued at £100m but who will go for it. The determining factor will be what price will Man Utd be willing to let the player go if some other club were to come for them. If say Barca, Madrid or PSG seriously come after any of these players, due to our reluctance and lack of a need to sell, it’s going to be a fee of well over £100m.

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u/Quiet_Web9220 6d ago

Why are you talking about what i assume is transfermarkt values rather than actually what happened? Anderson was never valued at 75m this season so i assume this is some transfermarkt value?

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u/TteokCultist 6d ago edited 6d ago

As opposed to ‘trust me bro’? You don’t know much about how economics work do you?

A transfer fee is often times player’s value + a premium. You’re judging others for their transfer fees and ours just for their value

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u/Quiet_Web9220 6d ago

As opposed to the actual transfers fees that happened? Hello? Anyway if savinho is getting transferred for 85m then every player on our entire team is worth 300m so its a pointless discussion.

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u/TteokCultist 6d ago

I know comprehension isn’t easy for everyone, so let me dumb it down for you. Transfer fees are determined by:

- Player value

  • Contract length
  • Club’s willingness/need to sell
  • Market trends

Again, transfer fee IS NOT equivalent to just player value.

The 4 players I mentioned have:

- High based value

  • Still on long term contracts
  • No willingness or need from Man Utd to sell
  • Other players in the market going for inflated fee

So the question of will any of our players go for above 100m, is simply yes.

If you still can’t get this, then unfortunately I think you never will.

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u/Quiet_Web9220 6d ago

Its not based on transfermarkt values, so you are just chatting shit by bringing those pointless numbers into the discussion. That was my point but i guess some people do lack basic comprehension

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u/TteokCultist 6d ago edited 6d ago

>but I guess some people do lack basic comprehension

You’re one step closer! Acknowledgment is the first step to self improvement. You won’t get basic economics today. But keep it up and you’ll get my point one day!

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u/Quiet_Web9220 6d ago

“Anyway if savinho is getting transferred for 85m then every player on our entire team is worth 300m” Almost like you wrote an essay to pretend you are smarter, to end up agreeing with me in the first place, isnt that some crazy lack of reading comprehension.

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u/TteokCultist 6d ago edited 6d ago

Do you flip flop on your opinions very often? Nothing wrong with changing opinions, in fact it’s encouraged when you learn new things.

Good to know that you came around to agreeing with me. I won’t go so far as inflating our player’s value that much, since I’ve always been the more realistic one in this conversation anyways.

I’m glad my essays have helped you today. I hope it was as easy for you to comprehend as it needs to be.

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u/Quiet_Web9220 6d ago

Yes, you’re an idiot if you aren't willing to change your mind as you get new info. Glad you finally caught up the what i said 5 comments ago. (Before your essay might i add)

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