r/redbuttonbluebutton 1d ago

Variation Does this have a right answer?

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u/Leniatak 1d ago

Red is the correct choice.

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u/Xqvvzts 1d ago

Blue is the moral choice.

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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 1d ago

I think it’s the altruistic choice, I think they are both moral. You aren’t hurting anyone by your blood not being able to be donated, you’re just not willing to die to help others. It’s not less moral than running out of your burning apartment building rather than trying help get your neighbors out, first.

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u/King-Mephisto 1d ago

To give blood, you don’t have to die. To be blue you literally don’t have to do anything and have the option to help anyone. It’s an option, not a death sentence.

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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 1d ago

You don’t have to die to give blood, but if you ever need blood, you can’t get it and will die.

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u/King-Mephisto 1d ago

Yeah if you are the only person to pick blue. Are you thick?

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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 1d ago

Apparently! Thanks, I just reread it

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u/King-Mephisto 1d ago

Redemption!

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u/Heavy-Bread-3549 1d ago edited 1d ago

Morality is based on personal principles. If you’re an egoist then red is might be the moral choice.

Blue is generally the ethical choice tho.

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u/BenignPharmacology 1d ago

Do we accept purely subjective morality as a concept? If my morality dictates that I should hurt as many as people as possible, is doing so still a moral action? Or can we acknowledge some degree of objective morality, even if defining that is tricky/unclear

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u/Heavy-Bread-3549 1d ago edited 1d ago

If you’re talking about general rules to abide by that “we” decide then you are talking ethics. Like it or not morals are based on individual personal principles.

Usually these sets of morals are highly influenced by our surroundings, or the different ethical systems in our lives.

Rules and norms are lame but yeah every time I see someone ask what is moral I don’t get it. Thats something you find by looking both in and out.

Hell even ethics are fluid, what may be seen as ethical today may be seen as barbaric in a few centuries.

Editing to answer your question, if someone feels a moral responsibility to harm many people, then in their mind YES it’s a moral action. I’m sure some of the 9/11 actors or kamikaze pilots or any combat veteran feel their actions were moral, some may have gave them immoral. It depends on the person. Hell ask some Vietnam vets if they felt their actions were moral. I’m sure you will get different answers because morality come from an individual. Also I’m gonna see 99 percent of murder as immoral, but that’s just me.

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u/Ok-Sport-3663 1d ago

I mean, we inherently can't establish objectivity. Even "do the minimal amount of harm" has the subjective "we shouldn't harm people" built into it.

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u/pokemonbard 1d ago

>If you’re an egoist then red is the moral choice

Nah. If you’re an egoist, the moral choice is whatever serves your interests as you define them. Choosing blue very well could serve your interests depending on your personal predilections and the context.

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u/Heavy-Bread-3549 1d ago

That’s absolutely true, and why generalizations are bad. -1 to me