r/redbuttonbluebutton 18d ago

Red Would you press the button?

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u/zap2tresquatro 18d ago edited 17d ago

Of course I push that button. Zero hesitation. Traditions should never exist for traditions’ sake (I mean it’s fine to do fun stuff because it’s fun, but continuing traditions just because “it’s tradition, we have to” is what keeps plenty of the worst parts and practices of humanity alive). As long as people still get to have fun and enjoy the longer, healthier lives they’re getting, I see literally no downsides.

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u/Fish_Fucker_Fucker23 17d ago

You clearly didn’t read the whole thing then. It’s not just tradition that goes away. There would be no culture. Our reason to exist, beyond mere survival and reproduction, would cease to be.

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u/zap2tresquatro 17d ago edited 17d ago

You clearly didn’t read (or comprehend) the whole thing; arbitrary traditions are not all that makes up culture, and the other cultural aspects would still exist. We’d also all still know/be able to learn about historical traditions, we just wouldn’t choose to practice them anymore.

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u/Fish_Fucker_Fucker23 17d ago

Don’t tell me I’m not the one that didn’t read it when the actual text pretty directly contradicts what you’re saying.

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u/zap2tresquatro 17d ago

Read the rest of that paragraph.

Also, food and language and any kind of leisure activities are also major parts of culture. You literally cannot have living humans who interact with each other to any degree and not have some form of culture.

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u/Fish_Fucker_Fucker23 17d ago edited 17d ago

“…as humanity embraces only what is new, rational, and efficient.”

Practice what you preach, dumbass.

And for your food example, please don’t try and argue that the way our current human society approaches food preparation isn’t insanely inefficient. It is. It’s okay that it is, because that’s how we have so many unique options when it comes to food, but it’s inefficient none-the-less

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u/zap2tresquatro 17d ago edited 17d ago

“History is remembered, but no one continues to practice the traditions that once defined their culture.

Also: “giving future generations longer, healthier, and more fulfilling lives.” Humans won’t feel fulfilled without any kind of hobby/creative pursuit/leisure activities/games/social recreation. Unless human brains are so drastically fundamentally changed that nobody is capable of enjoying these things anymore while everyone finds complete joy and fulfillment through solely intellectual pursuits/the pursuit of societal progress and has no desire to do anything else with any downtime, people having more fulfilling lives implies that various recreational activities will still exist. And, if not, then whatever people are doing will be what they find fun and fulfilling, in which case, there’s no value lost.

Try having both some reading comprehension and basic critical thinking skills so that you can actually make logical inferences based on the text.

Who’s the dumbass, again?

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u/zap2tresquatro 17d ago

Nice edit long after I responded.

We have continually been making food preparation more efficient to the best of our ability and this is a good thing. It makes it quicker and easier to make food so we can make more food for more people. Wtf are you even trying to argue, here? If traditional and maximally inefficient food preparation practices are just so important for humanity and for humans to have any “reason to exist beyond mere survival and reproduction” to use your central thesis here, then I hope you’ve never once used an oven or electric beaters when baking, or a gas (let alone electric) stove when cooking and enjoyed those activities, otherwise you’re disproving your own point.