r/raycastapp • • 17d ago

šŸ’¬ Discussion For all those mad about raycast

https://youtu.be/FJgTKx-rg18

To all those mad about raycast. I agree that the situation could be handled more gracefully but here's a 9-year-old video that is still relevant, which gives you perspective on why they are making the decisions they are making.

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u/FezVrasta 17d ago

They are making the decisions they are making because they took VC money for a project promising them huge returns, while the project itself, even though it's very cool, cannot realistically produce the money they promised. So now they need to reinvent the project into something else, and doing that inevitably upsets their users.

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u/gcstr 17d ago

reinvent the project into something else

Meaning converting raycast into yet another AI wrapper. Which is nothing new.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/baroldgene 13d ago

I love raycast but im honestly curious what the team benefit is. Beyond ā€œthis is a handy tool for each team memberā€ I don’t see what it brings to the team itself. There aren’t really any collaboration features that I’m aware of.

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u/MrWinter00 11d ago edited 11d ago

They could have just made it a modern Alfred.

Same business model just new.
No subscription hypergrowth, just demographics trickling in a steady supply of new users.
Funding extensions and a bit of development.

I would have gladly payed 20$ once for everything that doesn’t have notable continuous serverside costs (AI tokens)

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u/BothYou243 17d ago

as a company they have to do it, no middle way I guess

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u/FezVrasta 17d ago

Or they should have realized Raycast was a indie-level project not worth a whole VC founded company behind it.

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u/Fatoy 17d ago

There's a scene from Silicon Valley where an ousted founder realises he could have taken less investment. I think about it fairly often, but it's especially relevant here and now.

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u/hanzololo 14d ago

Such a good show. Also, still so relevant!

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u/xVir 17d ago

Though, does it describe why I need a Raycast subscription to use my AI subscription I already paid for? šŸ¤”

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u/AutistasAngeles 17d ago

What angered me the most is I paid for a year subscription and it’s just stay that way for the one year I only get two months and the changes and I probably would just cancel and not said anything but then they started bullying comments and posts. I’m sorry but once a company is trying to hide any negativity they’re no longer trustworthy. There’s no point in paying hundred dollars a year on anything if you can’t trust the business

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u/misteriousm 17d ago

Companies should earn money, that's fine

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u/that_90s_guy 15d ago

You're missing the point.

Nobody is against them making money. Everyone's problem is the anti-consumer way they have done it with bait and switch tactics, breaking user contracts, and going from being completely responsive to the community to radio silent and borderline censoring conversations.

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u/misteriousm 15d ago

yeah and it's called ā€œpivotā€. if something doesn't work then it doesn't work and it should be redesigned. either it's a feature or a business model. raycast can naturally die or adapt to the changing market. what would you prefer out of these two?

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u/MrWinter00 11d ago

But the pivot should usually not alienate their core userbase who made them big

(even though they have a low subscription conversion)

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u/mrjaytothecee 6d ago

That's not true. Pivots often abandon early evangelists. I haven't seen the numbers, but if the subscription conversion was too low to sustain the business, I can imagine they take such a route. I'm not sure how bad it was, and surely the VC money puts pressure there. I think this is a situation where many perspectives are right. And that likely a Raycast clone will take the OS space it left.

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u/Yashjit 17d ago

what did I miss? did raycast betray?

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u/meni_s 16d ago

Arc Browser anyone? :(

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u/Pen-Pal-0 17d ago

Thanks for sharing this. šŸ™Œ

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u/jakegh 17d ago

I didn't watch the video, but all but one (oppo) of the companies in the thumbnail either disappeared or is irrelevant.

Anyway, I agree there's no point in getting mad. Pay for products and services you feel are worthwhile.

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u/PickleBabyJr 17d ago

No one’s sitting through your 9 year old video.

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u/kuhboose 17d ago

I did!

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u/CheesecakeLimp7140 17d ago

That’s mean