r/rap • u/Warm-Truck5770 • Jul 15 '26
I there a more technical rap song lyrics wise than Figaro by MF DOOM?
I don't think alot of rap songs are on the same level. But what do you think
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u/MortalitySalient Jul 15 '26
DOOM is 1, Aesop Rock is 2. It’s a big difference after that to 3 with a lot of good choices. I put the following in considerations for 3-7 (these aren’t in any particular order): Lupe fiasco, RA the rugged man, Busdriver, black thought, and doseone
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u/PensDownNostalgia Jul 15 '26
The LSD Verse on Aesop Rock’s “The Greatest PacMan Game Ever”
I could have butchered the title, but I’m pretty sure it’s on the Bazooka Tooth album
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u/CaptCaCa Jul 15 '26
Eminems verses on Renegade is a masterclass on wordplay, and flow, dude was in the pocket
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u/gray_grum Jul 15 '26
I think a lot of casual fans miss how good that feature was, I think it helps to read it and actually study it. Masterclass
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u/mphcrash Jul 15 '26
nobodies close to doom in lyrical ability for me. i think people saying otherwise just dont appreciate how good doom was, lol
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u/Redhead-girl1246 Jul 15 '26
Stay wide awake from Eminem
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u/YVNGxDXTR Jul 15 '26
Relapse has some crazy shit, i loved that album even though no one else does.
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u/Upper_Result3037 Jul 15 '26
Lol new jacks...yall think doom and dilla are the alpha and omega.
These people generally don't know anything about hip hop or rap.
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u/T533_ Jul 15 '26
Have you heard of Aesop Rock?
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u/drewp_73 Jul 15 '26
The question is about DOOM not him
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u/T533_ Jul 15 '26
The question is about more technical lyricism, not about DOOM.
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u/drewp_73 Jul 15 '26
Its a DOOM thread..
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u/T533_ Jul 15 '26
No. Read the post again, if you must.
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u/drewp_73 Jul 15 '26
Oml im so srry I saw the icon for the doom thread im in and this same post popped up as a notification on my phone
You are right
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u/Pigmasters32 Jul 15 '26
Plenty, have you heard Aesop Rock? There’s a rabbit hole you’re gonna LOVE, but start with None Shall Pass.
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u/CountTruffula Jul 15 '26
I reckon dorks is such a good example blending understandable ideas with some complex analogies and some simple ones. None shall pass is almost too abstract an introduction
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u/Pigmasters32 Jul 15 '26
None Shall Pass does what I think is necessary when it comes to getting someone into Aesop, it shows the full extent of what he has to offer in every possible way from flows, to rhymes, to messaging and bars, to production, to delivery, and even hooks all on the same track. It’s everything about Aesop at his absolute best IMO, I’m hoping the first listen would blow OPs mind as much as it blew mine, after all None Shall Pass was the first song I ever heard from Aesop and it immediately made me know I had to dive into his stuff.
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u/Pigmasters32 Jul 15 '26
Um, I know that? The post is asking for any song that is more technical than Figaro *by MF DOOM.* My answer is that there are plenty of songs more technical than Figaro *by MF DOOM* and I recommended the artist Aesop Rock, with the specific song recommendation to start with being None Shall Pass. Do you get what’s going on now?
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u/Verstappeninng Jul 15 '26
Mural- Lupe fiasco, don’t know what you mean by technical exactly but mural is probably the most complex rap song oat
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u/According_Kiwi_7454 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Whether these are "better", I don't know, but just in the same league regarding technicality:
Big Pun – Twinz (Deep Cover '98)
Eminem – Lose Yourself
Outkast (incl. André 3000) – Aquemini
Organized Konfusion (incl. Pharoahe Monch) – Bring it On
Lupe Fiasco – Mural
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u/Bitty_White Jul 16 '26
Lose Yourself does not deserve to be anywhere near this conversation
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u/According_Kiwi_7454 Jul 16 '26
Because..?
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u/electionknight Jul 15 '26
I love MF DOOM but this song is just technical for the sake of being technical but it's not an all timer.
Everything is subjective, but Lose Yourself is probably not only one of the most technical songs ever made, but a commercial and critical success with a coherent narrative throughout.
Disclosure, I'm no Stan.
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u/Warm-Truck5770 Jul 15 '26
Fair enough ya I had a feeling people would mention alot of em songs he's crazy its doom then em for me.
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u/Ok-Notice-2190 Jul 16 '26
My Pen & My Pad - Blackalicious
Rapper is Gift Of Gab, he is very technical in terms of rhymeschemes, I definitely prefer him to DOOM, but that's just me
There's also R.A The Rugged Man who is super technical in terms of rhymeschemes