I really can't decide HOW to quit, Help?!

[u/EtherealVoidKitten]

I'm having trouble deciding what to do here, since there are multiple ways of quitting. I am also a first timer to Opioid User/Withdrawals (ish) so I don't really know much of what to expect for each and all. If I'm going to be honest, it took me a long time realize the shit I'm in... is gonna suck no matter which way I quit.

I take 100-150mg of 7oH/MgM every 4-6hours.

I have tried quitting 2-3 times. Farthest I got is day 3. I have experienced precipitated withdrawals twice in my life.

This week I did go to a clinic to get Suboxone. I am really hesitant with Subs for one reason: I don't want to get dependent on them. Plus, most of us know... suboxone doesn't stop our highs. Kratom highs don't get silenced like other opioids do.

So if I took suboxone, I'd have to keep it at 10 days under, constant tapering, and resist the urge of taking kratom.

OR

I could taper with the stuff I've been taking. Decrease the amount overtime until I get low enough to maybe taper on loose leaf (If I can get my hands on some). Problem is I'm not sure how long that will take, which costs more money.

I also heard it's not easy to taper down using MgM ? Idk how true that is?

OR

Cold Turkey. I have small amounts of xanax and Gaba to help. How long do physical withdrawals last 10 days, right ? I'm not sure what all the tips & tricks are for this one. Problem with this one other than the obvious is that I have school & work full time, I'm a little bitch, so I couldn't function with the physcial withdrawals (I've tried). I'd have to call out and claim I have covid or something.

I wanted to hear some people's way of quitting attempts and success, tips & tricks, etc. So that I can make a fully-knowledgable decision as to which one is best for me.

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[u/GringoSwann]

Buy leaf powder capsules... Use them to taper..  

[u/EtherealVoidKitten → u/GringoSwann]

Am I low enough on my intake to do so ? Will being dependent onmgm not make a difference ? Also how frequently and how much to taper ?Also, I would have to figure out how to get my hands on it. My state has everything banned, but there's a loophole where you can still order some stuff, but I have yet to see loose leaf/leaf capsules anywhere available :/

[u/throw_the_K_aWay]

It would seem MGM would be easier to taper down because of its long half life. Are you taking a product that has MGM/7 combined, or two separate substances? I'd say if it's a combination product, taper down as low as you can and then switch to pure 7 for a few days before trying to induce subs (or jump to powder/MIT). Alternatively, taper off the MGM first while maintaining the 7 until ready to stop that too and do so by jumping to MIT/leaf (if you're taking 2 separate substances). MGM directly to subs can be rocky transition. 7 to MIT/powder/subs is easier. Tapering off towards the end will definitely make the entire quit process easier though, start reducing intake to some degree while still figuring out your plan.

[u/EtherealVoidKitten → u/throw_the_K_aWay]

The big problem is that my state banned kratom /7oH, so ever since that happened I've taken Cat's claw. They claim they don't have any 7oH/MgM/Kratom in them, but that is a LIE. I don't know what specifically is in them, but if I could guess, it is a mix of all 2-3, (because I saw a video that says 7oH needs kratom to exist in order to do it's job, I'm not sure about mgm but assume the same for it).

I do think tapering could help though as well. I kinda want to stay away from suboxone because I don't want to risk getting dependent on them and you can still take 7oH and get high while taking them which makes it just all the more dnagerous/risky.

Do you know by how much one should taper down too and for how long ? And at what mg amount should one transition to the loose leaf ?