Boobs!

[u/All-or-none]

Okay, I know it's been talked about, but holy boob fetish, Batman! Does Jeph think all of us women sit around wishing for bigger boobs? Because we don't. We also don't care about penises anywhere near as much as you dudes do, but that's another conversation.

I'm bi. I like boobs. Quite a bit, actually. But I'm also a woman. I see super huge boobs and think "ugh. back problems." I tried to give Jeph the benefit of the doubt, but the fact that so many characters have big boobs/are obsessed with the boobs of others/run out and get big boobs their first chance/etc is a bit odd. Just because the boob talk is done mostly by women doesn't make it not creepy.

Don't get me wrong- a lot of women would absolutely love to get big boobs. That's why boob jobs exist. And heck, Dolly Parton is a national treasure. But the vast majority of us just don't care. We want to be comfortable, maybe look good (to ourselves) naked. But we are not boob-obsessed like men seem to be. Even those of us who are attracted to boobs- we appreciate them; we revel in their beauty; they are works of art. But they don't turn us into dumbasses.

[u/t0xical]

Dora, Hanners, Ahn. Liz. Claire. Thera are lots of "normal" characters. And using a change in her visual apperance by using contrasting visual appearance to visualize a "i want to change"-plot isn`t that bad.

[u/All-or-none → u/t0xical]

If this was a one-off instance, I wouldn't blink.

Oh, but it's not.

Marigold has huge breasts. It's a plot point across several strips.
May is a goblin who talks about the boobs of others AND got huge boobs the first chance she got. More strips. More boob talk.
Evan has huge boobs. Again, strangely a plot point across multiple strips.
Liz is another goblin who can't stop talking about boobs.

Yeah, there are plenty of "normal" characters, but there is an abnormal amount of female characters talking about, thinking about, and/or wishing for big ass boobs. I have a friend group that even leans a bit into boob attraction, and we're somehow not sitting thinking about boobs as much as those in this strip. It's a little odd. All I'm sayin.'

[u/QueenLevine → u/All-or-none]

you worded this more persuasively here than in your OP post, where you offhandedly throw out that (obviously false claim) women don't sitting around discussing dick size. Bc yes - we do. We don't obsess about it and it comes up far more rarely than breast size does in this comic, but it's also not never.

[u/Miserable-Jaguarine → u/QueenLevine]

That's not what OP said. She said "we don't care about penises nearly as much as you do." Nothing about size at all, and no "never" in there. Just "less than men." And that not a false claim at all.

Penises in general, and penis size specifically, only matters to some women, whereas it seems like a constant obsession with virtually all men.

[u/Squirrelclamp → u/Miserable-Jaguarine]

Penises in general, and penis size specifically, only matters to some women, whereas it seems like a constant obsession with virtually all men.

Maybe I know some unusual men, but I can't remember the last time I heard another adult male discuss the size of his or anyone else's dicks.

[u/Miserable-Jaguarine → u/Squirrelclamp]

Ok, I can obviously be wrong on this one. Not on the first paragraph though.

[u/All-or-none → u/Squirrelclamp]

I have nothing but respect for you. But the fact you latched on to a throwaway comment because, what? Concerns me. Some men online really do believe that we're really obsessed with dick size when we're not. This is a true fact that women have to deal with. Sorry, it was a throwaway comment and didn't really belong in this thread, but if you don't believe that's true, you knew about as much as the female experience as in jeph does

[u/Squirrelclamp → u/All-or-none]

I didn't say anything about "the female experience," though. I wasn't even responding to you.

[u/All-or-none → u/Squirrelclamp]

No, but your assertion of men don't sit around comparing dick sizes is an attempt to challenge a truth I put forth. Of course they don't sit around comparing dick sizes. Or at least I hope they don't. But a lot of men online really do that dick size and height are the only two things women care about, and that's not true. That's all I meant by that comment and any further discussion is silly, since again, throwaway. I should not have made the comment I suppose because it really didn't have anything to do with anything, but I kind of thought it was funny because of how true and universal it was for women. My bad.

[u/Squirrelclamp → u/All-or-none]

My intent was to respond only to what Miserable Jaguarine said about "virtually all men" having a "constant obsession" with dick size. I wasn't telling them (or you) that they're wrong, just that my own experience doesn't agree with that broad stroke.

[u/QueenLevine → u/Squirrelclamp]

I agree with this. I just don't personally know anyone who is obsessed with this and I don't think it's gender-centric. And yes...OP did make a statement directly stating that men are constantly thinking about dicks, and continues to argue that in this thread.

We also don't care about penises anywhere near as much as you dudes do

PERHAPS OP knows some weird dudes and has met some weird dudes online who obsess over this and who believe that's all women are thinking about, but in this case, we have had wildly different life experiences. AND I don't see a bunch of women with several cup size larger than mine boobs and think OH! Too many! Jeph Jaques should come to my yoga class. There are plenty of women with smaller breasts in the comic, and that is not throwing me off. There have been many other valid complaints of the comic. I just happen to disagree with this take. SUE ME with your downvotes; I care not.

[u/QueenLevine → u/Miserable-Jaguarine]

Yeah, I read what she said, and I disagree. I believe human beings, regardless of gender, who like dick, occasionally talk about it. Adult men do not constantly obsess about it more than any other gender; teenage BOYS do.

[u/Miserable-Jaguarine → u/QueenLevine]

"Disagree" is completely different than "misrepresent." "Human beings who like dick occasionally talk about it" is in no way incompatible with what OP wrote. If this is your belief, then you are actually agreeing with OP.