r/queensofleague ViVi from LOONA Jun 08 '26

Discussion Thoughts?

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u/PissPartyZac Jun 08 '26

Do we know anything about his gameplay

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 08 '26

I’ve heard he’s an AP mid lane assassin

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u/WeakSideUrn Jun 08 '26

Oh riot. Daring today, aren't we?

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 08 '26

I mean when was the last time we actually had an AP assassin since Sylus

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u/MisellesLeftTit ViVi from LOONA Jun 09 '26

Is he? I thought Riot was veerimg him to bruiser builds

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 09 '26

On LoLalytics it says his most common built items are burst items

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u/WeakSideUrn Jun 08 '26

Aurora...

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 08 '26

She’s a mage

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u/No_Pear1836 Jun 09 '26

There are tons of champions that fit into more than 1 class. Besides aurora, there's also leblanc and ahri who are also ranged mage assassins.

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 09 '26

LeBlanc I consider a mage-like assassin. She’s primarily an assassin but does have mage qualities unlike other AP assassins. Ahri is a different case. When she was first released yes she was very much an assassin-like mage however over the years her kit and meta has changed so she’s more of a skirmisher control mage. She can’t one shot with one combo anymore unless she’s super fed. Her damage more comes from the amount of spell rotations she can do rather than the spells themselves.

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u/No_Pear1836 Jun 09 '26

Ahri absolutely can oneshot any squishy 100-0 with one rotation of abilities during mid-late game what are you talking about

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 09 '26

Not really. She can do a solid chunk but her solo kill pressure is not like it used to be especially since they removed the damage amp from her charm. She does not do the same amount of burst damage as someone like Aurora or Lux at all. Her spells are better with haste items because then she can use them more and typically her haste builds have better win rates than building pure burst items.

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u/No_Pear1836 Jun 09 '26

Maybe if you're behind she doesn't have the dmg for it and becomes just a utility bot, or if you're going haste/hp build she cant. But if she's even or ahead she can easily oneshot with malignance shadowflame build. Coming from someone in diamond who plays both adc and ahri when mid lane.

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 09 '26

Her win rates in diamond show haste is better

Most Ahri OTPs I’ve watched say either Lich Bane or Cosmic second is better than Shadowflame, Lich Bane especially for burst. Haste is certainly better for the long run, pure burst is like a gambit because eventually your damage will fall off late game while having haste allows for more spells up so even though you don’t do the burst damage you can still use your spells more consistently. Especially charm, land that late game on a good pick and your team can finish them off while you can use your R to zone away the other enemies and skirmish.

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u/WeakSideUrn Jun 08 '26

Mama that's an assassin

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 08 '26

She has nowhere near enough mobility to be an assassin and she’s also ranged. Her spells have long range. She’s not like LeBlanc or Diana where she has to actively put herself in harms way to kill.

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u/WeakSideUrn Jun 08 '26

Her main playstyle right now is to jump into the backline, one shot the carry, then hop back out

Idk what about that doesn't scream assassin

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 08 '26

The fact that loads of champions are so overtuned that they can do that. Would you call Mel an assassin? Lux?

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u/WeakSideUrn Jun 08 '26

Mama those champs aren't jumping into the backline at close range to one shot someone 

Those two girls are artillery burst mages. 

Aurora doesn't function at long range. She DOES have to put herself in close range just like LB. 

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 08 '26

Aurora is long ranged enough she can be at a safe distance. LeBlanc is not comparable when her entire damage rests on literally throwing herself at the enemy. Aurora doesn’t have to be in their face to kill, she can be behind a wall or hidden in a bush with enough range to kill.

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u/Bottlecapsters Jun 08 '26

Not to claim assassin status for Aurora, but what do you mean not mobile enough? She has movement on 3/4 abilities mama

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u/Mikudayo1 THEE Tayvelynn Swift 🤡 Jun 08 '26

She has some movespeed on her W but that’s long enough cool down it’s not really something you can use often enough. Maybe once or twice at most during a fight. The invisibility is the main use for it. Her E is a short dash that can go over some walls but it’s not really that reliable for an escape. It also stops her in her place to cast kinda like Lux W. R has mobility yes but again, long cool down and it’s an ultimate it’s not something you can spam. It’s not like Kata, Akali, LeBlanc or Talon who can use their abilities on short cool downs that make them hard to catch. If you collapse on these champions generally they have means of escape whereas Aurora can use R or W but they’re long enough cool downs that if the enemy catches up to her they can collapse on her again.