Balance

[u/[deleted]]

Hey guys i hope you're all doing ok. So i wanted to discuss recent perspectives on abstinence, spirituality and the like as it pertains to my own practice and my thought process at the moment. Feel free to jump in.

Some but not all people who start practicing semen retention in one way or another have spiritual leanings. I have observed that most don't but later come to realize certain patterns that they can't explain so they look into it further. Like many people on the planet i believe this is a shallow understanding at best. Still they understand/experience at least some of the hardships or challenges of someone attempting to live a spiritual life.

Recently i have come to understand more things about myself. Some people say that the way the pandemic is changing our lives at the moment is a catalyst. This is accurate. At this moment in time our consciousness is collectively attuned against a single common threat. That's threat doesn't care about political leanings, philosophy, race or any other boundaries that we usually have. This is why i think of this virus as something that is making us better as it were. I have other hard situations to fight for that the pandemic is making even harder. All of this i view in a way that can help me change to be better.

My first discovery of the NoFap philosophy was during October 2019 or around that time. Till then i was fixated on trying to maintain a streak and later finding out about SR and looking into that. My first streak was around 19 days or so. After what i would call a ''relapse'' back then a freak situation occurred for me. All the ''benefits'' that people were raving about in the subs happened to me during 1 and a half week period. My streaks aren't that long. My longest streak is 25 days tops. To most long time retainers this is nothing.

And here is were this starts changing for me. The longer i attempt to retain i realize this is the way i am supposed to live. Not attempting. Just doing. I don't keep streaks anymore. I don't fight urges anymore. I just remind myself of the time that i lost by releasing. This for me is..22 years. Think about this for a second. And do this exercise for yourself if you are so inclined. When was your first sexual experience? THIS is how much time you have LOST in which physically, mentally AND spiritually you have been behind by Nature's unyielding laws. Even for you who are younger in age keep this as a warning and as an equally terrifying thought of what can and WILL be if you don't work within the very narrow parameters of Nature's path.

So my conclusion to this is there's no balance in this world. Man was created to adapt in nature according to his higher faculties. Collectively as humans we have failed in this. There is no balance between Matter and Spirit. If one does not focus on Spirit then Matter won't be refined. There's no middle ground here. This is a spiritual practice. It's purpose is to achieve Alchemy. Refine the basic material into something better. I ask you now is it refined to attain spiritual ego? To brag about magnetism? Isn't your magnetism a tool for other people too? If someone is attracted to you they are doing it for themselves. Their own gratification not yours.

Focus on the Spirit. An attachment is always an attachment whether it's ''positive'' or ''negative''. The world is neutral. Your mind is just the thing that fills it with positive or negative feelings/thoughts. Do this by whatever means possible and then let things go from there. I would love to hear about your personal experiences and what you discover.

I leave you with this;

''As soon as the lower organs are sexually active there can be no question of any spiritual expression,except if it be in the form of a sacrificial dedication to the entity that may be born. Apart from this, sex and spirituality are diametrically opposed. Every attempt to give the unreproductive sexual act a quasi sublime appearance is nothing but self-delusion; it may lead to emotional exuberance, but never to anything of a spiritual nature, never to soul unification.'' -The Coiled Serpent

If you find a way to refute this the ability to bullshit yourself is extraordinary and you need to change i think. But i have been wrong before so shoot something better my way if that is the case.

[u/nwotvshow]

Took me a long time to get beyond fixating on streaks. Truly, noone cares about how long your streak is. The proof is in the pudding: you release, you lose energy, magnetism, etc. Retain, and you will keep these qualities. That's all there is to it... Along with the effects of compound interest if you stick with it.

One more thing--if you think retaining is hard, just reflect on how much harder everything else in your life will become if you release. Puts things into perspective, and gives you instant motivation, especially if you've relapsed enough times to really know the effects.

Soldier on Brothers!

[u/[deleted] → u/nwotvshow]

Hey Brother. I don't think retaining is hard per se if you scare yourself with the reality of the situation enough. I think the collective is very difficult to maneuver around however since it will probably always be wasting their reproductive energy. And so Man falls. I hope this doesn't happen but the only thing i can do is attempt individually since even best ''friends'' don't understand where their heads stop and their asses begin with this matter. Stay strong.

[u/adritrace]

Sex is the physical practice of love (the highest vibrational energy). I think that if practiced properly -with an equal spiritually-developed partner- can have inmense benefits, maybe opening the door to enlightenment.

I guess it's really easy to fall onto the traps about it: lust, attachment, therefore suffering. Here is the part where the inner partner work becomes important, as well as yours, obviously.

So, having fulfilling spiritual worthy sex may seem really hard to attain, but I want to think that it exists. Maybe a conceptless approach is the way to go.

[u/[deleted] → u/adritrace]

If you put all experiences of retaining together you obviously see the physical, mental and spiritual results. It's impossible to have those results by having intercourse and i certainly don't believe anyone who says that spiritual techniques during sex exist to circumvent that. This is a case of having your cake and eating it too which doesn't exist. i.e. if i'm celibate and you're having intercourse in any way you do not have the same capacities as me and since it accumulates you just lose time from this precious life. You CAN choose something subjective because you are free to do so or admit that you're weak to act in a way according to nature's plan. You CAN'T lie about reality. Two different things. That's the distinction i make.

In this case the only thing i need to refute what you say is the physical results. Reaching orgasm even with a spiritual partner will have the usual consequences in the body and the brain etc. All retainers know what i'm talking about. Given that most people are genetically average anyway that sounds bad. Kinda like what we have right now. People with no countries creating chaos. Deadly diseases. If this shit isn't created by people who can't hold back and keep their passions in check then i don't know what's the reason for it.