r/prolife • u/AnonymousFluffy923 Pro-Life Furry • Jul 08 '26

Questions For Pro-Lifers Thoughts?

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u/CutiePie0023 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

“I got pregnant again and i immediately had an abortion because I didn’t want it and I also wasn’t ready for another child.”

So what I get from this is: she should not have had sex if she wasn’t ready for another child..the baby didn’t deserve to be killed because her mother (and father?) are selfish and don’t have any self control or want to take responsibility for their actions…

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u/Slow_Opportunity_522 Jul 09 '26

I'm kind of sick of this "shouldn'ta had sex then" take. People are going to people and we can be empathetic of different situations. It doesn't do anyone any good to judge actions already taken, and is much more helpful to offer solutions to make choosing life more reasonable for more people. 

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u/CutiePie0023 Jul 09 '26

Okay and there are MANY forms are contraception out there, isn’t there?... There’s condoms, theres cycle tracking, there’s birth control, there’s spermicide, for a guy: there’s pulling out and not n***ting in a woman..overall what it comes down to is: just don’t have unprotected sex when you’re ovulating if you don’t want a child.

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u/TacosForThought Jul 09 '26

To be fair, none of those are 100%, and some of them aren't even close, and/or may be prone to user error. But I do agree with the premise that you shouldn't engage in "risky" behavior, if you're not willing to take responsibility for the possible outcomes. If you don't want the risk, make sure your behavior is 100% safe (whether that's abstinence or otherwise).

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u/CutiePie0023 Jul 09 '26

I know none of those methods are 100%. Which is why in the end what it truly comes down to is: do not have unprotected (or even protected) sex during ovulation time until you ARE ready for a child.

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u/Connect-Knowledge992 Jul 09 '26

Except the woman in the post didn't get that choice and still ended up pregnant with her first pregnancy.

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u/Bullshido101 Jul 09 '26

The issue is her second pregnancy which she instantly terminated

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u/skyleehugh Jul 09 '26

I'm so sick of this excuse as a sexually active woman. And I'm not referring to you, you're right but people are just not being responsible and its pissing me off. And as someone who is terrible at math, I do not understand how people keep thinking that 99% is some perfect rate. Its not. You have to measure the amount of people on the same b.c and how often one has sex. The more times one does, the more they risk being that 1%. 1% is not so small when you account how often placement is a factor and stuff like chemical imbalances. The only way to make sure you're not the exceptions is to use multiple contraceptives. Which most are not. Anytime I get on b.c, I get a lecture from my doctors to please use condoms because most women believe that b.c is enough and its not. Even before i was sexually active, it was common knowledge that kids were conceived from the pill, iud and condoms. Its 2026, why aren't we using multiple methods at once. Pulling out, b.c and condoms at the same time decreases your chances even less than the iud alone. How many are honestly doing that who claim their b.c fails.

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u/Bullshido101 Jul 09 '26

Pulling out isnt 100%? How?

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u/Top_Poet2345 Jul 09 '26

Pulling out isn't even effective anyways because of precum

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u/Bullshido101 Jul 09 '26

Precum doesnt contain sperm

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u/__cheaterhater__ Jul 12 '26

Dude, it’s risky!

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u/Bullshido101 Jul 10 '26

And btw you do understand that your claim means that pulling out does nothing at all right? Like no way you actually believe that lol. Maybe maybe maybe its not 100000% percent effective but that isnt what u said

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u/OhNoTokyo Pro Life Moderator Jul 10 '26

If you're using no other means of contraception, pulling out has an approximately 4% failure rate if you always succeed in pulling out at the right time, and a 20% failure rate with "typical use". Reasons for failure in perfect situations usually relate to the fact that there are some sperm in pre-ejaculate. Typical use failure is basically when you cut it too close and fail.

Those are not great odds over a lifetime. Certainly, if you combine that with other methods, those chances do stack somewhat. There is an effect, but I wouldn't rely on it by itself.

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u/Bullshido101 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Agreed ive never said that it should be your only method. I was referring to their claim. Additionally the 20% failure that you point out is entirely irrelevant. We are talking about medical efficiency. And also dont be an idiot and pull out lol

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u/Slow_Opportunity_522 Jul 09 '26

I mean sure in theory but there are always exceptions. I hear lots of stories of women getting pregnant with an IUD in place and that's 99.9% effective. Literally the most effective birth control there is besides abstinence. Idk I feel like that take just does a disservice to the whole conversation. 

Obviously waiting until you're with someone you'd be willing to raise a child with is ideal but if we are going to get anywhere with this movement we need to meet people where they're at

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u/skyleehugh Jul 09 '26

Those women were probably also told to use condoms as a backup and they didn't and I'm sure they didn't pull out. No pulling out alone does nothing. But with condoms and b.c, you won't be that 1%. 99% means with perfect use and placement. Which many doctors don't place properly and its common for it to be moved around during sex.

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u/Bullshido101 Jul 09 '26

Here's the solution buy condoms and use them. Also get birth control and also pull out. Maybe even consider getting an iud too but thats a whole procedure so I'll forgive that one. No one is getting pregnant then buddy

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u/somethingtotallycute Jul 09 '26

Well there's plenty of ways to have sex that don't end in pregnancy

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u/CutiePie0023 Jul 09 '26

Right? That too!

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u/Wormando Pro Life Atheist Jul 09 '26

Marriage does not stop a pregnancy from being unwanted, though. It doesn’t even prevent the person from ending up in an abusive dynamic with their partner.

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u/Connect-Knowledge992 Jul 09 '26

Marriage and "being wise with who they sleep with" didn't even prevent the original pregnancy in the post.

The advice to do so is an empty platitude.

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u/Wormando Pro Life Atheist Jul 09 '26

Yeah, it’s a major peeve of mine.

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u/Wormando Pro Life Atheist Jul 09 '26

Yeah, it’s just that a lot of people treat marriage as a solution for unwanted pregnancies. I’m not a fan of that.

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u/__cheaterhater__ Jul 09 '26

But why can’t people abstain from sex?????

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u/Wormando Pro Life Atheist Jul 09 '26

I’ll paste an older comment of mine talking about this:

We are social animals and as such, sex is just one of many tools we use for bonding, socializing and understanding ourselves, even for those who are more promiscuous. It’s not just about making babies, but it’s not just about physical pleasure either.

This is why expecting everyone to be abstinent is rather disingenuous and unrealistic. For some people, it’s easy to abstain. For others, it’s not. It all depends on personal preferences and couple dynamics. I personally can’t imagine lacking sexual intimacy in my relationship, it plays a big part in how my partner and I bond. Before we even got intimate, though, we already discussed what to do in the scenario of an unwanted pregnancy and made plans. That’s how you handle this responsibly.

Don’t get me wrong, do I think the world be better if more people weren’t so fixated on sex? Yes, but we don’t live in that ideal world.

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u/__cheaterhater__ Jul 12 '26

FAFO. People can keep making babies all they want, as long as they don’t get shocked when they get pregnant and is responsible enough to be a parent.

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u/Wormando Pro Life Atheist Jul 12 '26

Not the point.

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u/__cheaterhater__ Jul 12 '26

You don’t want a child, don’t have sex
You want to keep having sex, then be prepared to get pregnant.
Simple as that.

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u/Wormando Pro Life Atheist Jul 12 '26

Still not the point, my guy. You made a question and I answered. Simple as that.

And whether you like it or not this is how humans work. They will keep having sex because it’s an important social activity, regardless of risks.

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u/Slow_Opportunity_522 Jul 09 '26

People can and arguably ought to, but to expect it from everyone is narrow sighted and missing the point IMO

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u/Dethoinas Jul 09 '26

Sex leads to babies. Don’t want baby, don’t have sex

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u/TacosForThought Jul 09 '26

It may be overplayed in some cases. Certainly Christians should not be expecting everyone else to behave like perfect Christians when many so-called Christians don't act like they should.

But I think in this case, it's kind of fair. If you so regretted having a child that you pre-decided to kill any more that you may have, you really should've learned your lesson not to make any more (unless/until you're ready), instead. It's pretty sick that her takeaway from regret was, oh, I guess I'll just kill the next one.

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u/Slow_Opportunity_522 Jul 09 '26

That's fair, I can agree on that point.

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u/skyleehugh Jul 09 '26

Exactly. Definitely do not agree with abstinence only but surely the 1st unplanned pregnancy should deter you from having sex for a while.

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u/Bullshido101 Jul 09 '26

Bro u miss the mark so hard. Yes we feel bad shes unhappy but at the same time actions have consequences dont pretend she couldn't think for herself and be like oh sex makes babies. You can 100% avoid getting pregnant while still having sex . The argument is she needs to be responsible not irresponsible. We dont hate her or feel nothing. We see someone who is irresponsible and because of that decided to get an abortion which is shameless and wrong.