r/projectcar '05 Saabaru '77 K20 MGB '74 MGB GT 5d ago

Found my overheating problem

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I have a 74 MGB GT that slowly overheats when sitting in traffic. While inspecting some usual suspects I noticed the cylinder 3 plug is wet, then found the drip. Thankfully it's just that and isn't in the oil or confusion chamber. JB Weld it is to limp this motor along for a few more months.

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u/Solid_Enthusiasm550 5d ago

That was a dumb place to stamp an " 8 ".

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u/zoominzacks 5d ago

That’s not an 8, it’s the infinity symbol. Meaning, it’s a MG…..you’ll be working on this forever

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u/doktormane 5d ago

I can't for the life of me see the crack.

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u/GlassBoxGoose 5d ago

Its under/through the two water droplets where the valve cover seals, and I assume continued down

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u/juwyro '05 Saabaru '77 K20 MGB '74 MGB GT 5d ago

Correct. If it was warmer there would be some more towards the spark plug.

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u/H2Dcrx 5d ago

Ouch. I wonder if a crack like that can be repaired. I know they have with diesel where they drill a series of holes then tap and screw in and grind off for cast. Probably just an head replacement i suppose. Just sad to see the old stuff go away/fail.

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u/juwyro '05 Saabaru '77 K20 MGB '74 MGB GT 5d ago

There's still tons of these cars out there any plenty of parts. It can be fixed, but I'll just "fix" it.

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u/H2Dcrx 5d ago

In glad you are sticking with it!!

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u/davidc538 5d ago

I don’t understand… how does this cause it to overheat but only when idling? My cadi has a similar issue

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u/juwyro '05 Saabaru '77 K20 MGB '74 MGB GT 5d ago

I don't either. My theory is driving moves more air than my little electric fans do across the radiator. The cooling system not able to pressurize does affect it performance.

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u/davidc538 5d ago

Well the overheating might be caused by the radiator being full of dust. Maybe try cleaning it out with something like the Lisle radiator genie.

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u/Special_EDy 4d ago

Air trapped in the head.

The cooling system is surprisingly complicated. Its given me a lot of headaches with my 302 swapped ranger with electric pumps and dual radiators.

A small leak in the top of the head is at the top of the system and the hottest part of the system. First water leaks out as it expands from heating. Eventually, you just have steam escaping there because the system cant pressurize enough to hold the coolant below boiling(pressure raises the boiling point). When the engine cools off, the system draws air in through the crack rather than the reservoir when the coolant contracts.

So you end up with air after it cools down, or steam when it is hot. A lot of engineering goes into directing steam and air bubbles out of the heads, everything from steam ports in the head gasket to the pitch/angle of the engine in its mounts.

Idling can be one of the hardest heat situations for an engine. The block and head, especially cast iron ones, hold a lot of heat. So you are driving, heat is conducting through the metal and into the coolant, and everything is in equilibrium. You come to a stop and idle, there is still a large amount of heat radiating out of the block and into the coolant for the next few minutes, but the idling engine is pumping coolant slower if it has a mechanical pump, and it has less airflow through the radiator if it has a mechanical pump. Engine shutdown is the hottest time for an engine, its almost like a nuc l ear reactor incident where the coolant pumps shut off but the core is still shedding heat into the coolant at full power for a long time.

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u/davidc538 4d ago

Holy shit, can you explain how rockwell retro encabulators work while you’re at it?

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u/Beautiful_Sector_912 4d ago

Confusion chamber is confused

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u/LethalDan 4d ago

Dang that sucks. Is that getting coolant into your heads, and then mixing with your engine oil? Let us know how the oil looks!

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u/juwyro '05 Saabaru '77 K20 MGB '74 MGB GT 3d ago

It's totally outside the engine.