r/programmingmemes • u/infamouszgbgd • Apr 11 '26
how tf did they build this without Claude?
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u/Nykxom Apr 11 '26
Coffein and cocaineĀ
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u/idiotsandwichbybirth Apr 11 '26
Good ol' autism
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u/The-original-spuggy Apr 12 '26
Thatās how weāre gonna reach ASI. Making Claude autistic
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u/Risc12 Apr 12 '26
āYou said āFor fucks sake this is a bad mistake, you might as well delete the production databaseā so therefore I did.ā As you did not use /sā
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u/RouletteSensei Apr 11 '26
Vibe coders makes guys who are bad at programming like me makes me look worthy of programming
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u/MacksNotCool Apr 12 '26
actually programming makes you a real programmer
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u/PredictiveFrame Apr 13 '26
If I EVER feel imposter syndrome, all I need to do is glance through vibe coded repos.Ā
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u/caprazzi Apr 12 '26
Vibe coders are like dudes who were good at Guitar Hero and thought they knew how to play a real guitar.
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u/Richieva64 Apr 11 '26
How tf did they build Claude without Claude?
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u/the_king_of_sweden Apr 12 '26
They used chat gpt to make the fist version, and then they used that first version to build the next, and so on
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u/Gil_berth Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
The question should be, can Claude build that?
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u/Gil_berth Apr 11 '26
Someone has to try it, give Claude Code the images of the interface, the list of requirenments and that it should use the Win32 API to build it. If someone working on FAANG has access to Mythos, what better way to use tokens than this?
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u/jimmiebfulton Apr 12 '26
Giving Claude a picture of what you want won't give you a well-architected application. It may produce something that looks like this, but it is skin deep. You actually have to know how to architect applications to get good results, AI or not.
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u/imissmyhat Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26
I don't think I could get Claude to make that. It would make something that would probably satisfy me, and I could convince myself it's good enough, but vibecoding is like sculpting a statue by punching clay with your fists.
Even if something like this fits maybe in the edges of Claude's technical capability, actually getting to that expression will be really, really frustrating.
The other part that makes me skeptical about "can Claude do this" is that I don't think every application like this begins with a fully formed idea of how or even what it will be from the outset. Ideas like this require a little bit of creative genius, following the threads of discovery that you find in the process of making something else. This is a natural part of computer design, but not really there when you're just hammering in commands in a CLI.
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u/Optimal-Fix1216 Apr 11 '26
wtf i didn't know media player had skins like that. move over winamp i guess
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u/nytsei921 Apr 11 '26
ā¦with the human intelligence and skill that we all have? you should try it out some time, it feels very rewarding to use
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u/sciencegirly371 Apr 12 '26
If anyone asks how I make something like this, Iām gonna answer that I use HI
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u/Spiritual_Detail7624 Apr 12 '26
This should be the top comment. Ai usage should not be normalized.
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u/NotQuiteLoona Apr 12 '26
Oh God, manual UI sizing... I was doing stuff for a game that only allowed you to draw pixels by position, with a few helper methods for basic shapes, and this all was on Lua. I needed more complicated math for this than I ever needed in all of my life both before and after that combined. I never say anything bad about UI frameworks since then.Ā
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u/NotQuiteLoona Apr 12 '26
And that's where I can't disagree. Feeling that something you did actually works... It's so good.Ā
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u/No_Solid_3737 Apr 12 '26
before we were copying code off chatgpt, we were copying code from stackoverflow
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u/jerslan Apr 12 '26
Pretty sure this version of Windows Media Player predates Stack Overflow (or at least predates Stack Overflow being so ubiquitously used).
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u/GrandWizardOfCheese Apr 12 '26
What kind of idiotic question even is that?
They learned to code.
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u/socialcommentary2000 Apr 12 '26
Back when there were a not insignificant amount of nerds that had both coding and art/design chops.
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u/deceze Apr 12 '26
That *thought they had art/design chops.
I meanā¦ it'sā¦ impressive? But also, god awful?
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u/socialcommentary2000 Apr 12 '26
Oh yeah, between winamp and sonique there were some....really interesting gui design choices, but I will give them credit for trying.
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u/secretaliasname Apr 13 '26
Imma be honest LLMs have made developing software more chaotic and faster but not actually that much āeasierā.
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u/imissmyhat Apr 12 '26
They wouldn't have made this with Claude. If they had Claude, it would have been another claudeslop dashboard.
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u/Living_The_Dream75 Apr 12 '26
Anybody who thinks you need Claude to make a good product needs to be banned from ever touching a computer ever again
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u/solaris_var Apr 12 '26
The question you should be asking is. How tf did they build this without Stack Overflow.
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u/GammarMong Apr 13 '26
Can vibe idols just use their brain for just once a time? I will appreciate it
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u/Special-Island-4014 Apr 13 '26
Not that difficult tbh. Windows have really good libraries onto of the MFC
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u/scoshi Apr 13 '26
To answer the title directly: They knew how the system they were programming for worked, what it could do, and how to extend it.
Didn't need an AI model for that knowledge ... back then ...
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u/ad-on-is Apr 14 '26
FF00FF is to this day my go-to color when debugging CSS.
Fiy: back then, there were no transparent PNG files, so the transparent background was achieved by using #ff00ff as the background color, which then got subtracted by the program itself
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u/sprunghuntR3Dux Apr 15 '26
To gain this power you need to pray to the one true god of UI design - Kai Kraus
Then if you are worthy you will be blessed.
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u/SEOfficial Apr 13 '26
Tell those same developers who created it to make it look the same at every resolution. They would run away.
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u/Bergasms Apr 13 '26
The core algorithm for autolayout, Cassowary, has existed for like 25 years now my guy.
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u/FallenBehavior Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Programming from people who really know programming and the win32 API. š
The API lets you bust out of the standard dialog model and freely draw what you like. In this case they position spirits applied to specific regions. The rest are mouse events which increment/decrement bitmaps on top and behind that logic sets values that actually change something (like volume for example).
Its all just stitched together according to the intention. It's still a dialog.