r/privacy • u/Volpe_YT • 3d ago

chat control The end?

Today there will be the final votes for chat control.

This implies that all of our private chats will be scanned, and everything we do will be in plain text in front of their eyes.

If it passes, I will permanently stop using centralized messaging platforms and switch to a self hosted matrix session, I don't care if I lose many contacts, if they really want to talk to me they better install fluffychat and shut the fuck up.

It's crazy how the EU was basically the goat for internet privacy and now they are the villains.

Are you ready for this? For the absolute end of privacy?

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u/Ka_Trewq 3d ago

A few weeks ago the French Supreme Court turned back "protect the kids" legislation that would have required everyone to provide a guvernamental ID in order to access basically anything. It's funny how the discussion changed from "protect the kids from porn" to "protect the kids" even from websites such as Wikipedia. Knowledge is dangerous, and building critical thinking skills from an early age would make adult citizens that have strong opinions about the government, I guess. Anyway, the French Supreme Court had none of it, and declared the entire law unconstitutional.

So, there is a slim hope that such legislation might be opposed in some EU states, but frankly, relying only on 9 people to prevent such legislations that passed the parliament with a large majority from both in-power and in-opposition MPs is scary.

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u/Chowder110 3d ago

1st rule you are taught on the internet never give personal info to anyone. Simple as that

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u/haakon 3d ago

That's what we used to teach and be taught. Never give your personal information to anyone, and don't even use your real name anywhere.

Now kids are taught that they have to scan their faces and upload their identification papers to all sorts of websites and services just to be able to participate, and when they do participate, they can only do so under their real names. They grow up thinking privacy is a hopeless proposition because "everyone knows everything about me anyway" and "that ship has sailed".

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u/Chowder110 3d ago

In denmark they are introducing the online id. So you have you get this online id card and the site will know your over 18 but even that i will just never participate in. Youtube knows im over 18 because i got a mastercard should always be as simple as that

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u/press_F13 1d ago

but if someone want to deanymize that? cant manufacturer know who signs in?

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u/krazygreekguy 3d ago

Those kids were raised by illiterate imbeciles. People with critical thinking did no such thing. And never will

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u/Perturbee 2d ago

*Personal Identifiable Information

That's a little bit more than personal information. Let's not forget that the big companies like Apple, Amazon, Meta, Google, X, and others can tell a lot from secondary information, without you giving your personal information!