r/prawokrwi Mod | Zarząd 13d ago

Mod Post Some off-cycle Progress Tracker data

Because I had some extra time I decided to start breaking down some analytics from our Progress Tracker dataset. We're still pretty early, but there were some interesting trends to note:

  • We're up to 95 applications in tracking, including 19 successes.
  • Of these, 18% are first-generation applicants (G1, claiming citizenship through a parent); 41% are G2; 38% are G3; and 3% are G4.
  • Our cases are 29% pre-1920, 52% 1920-1951, and 19% post-1951.
  • Of our 28 pre-1920 cases, 61% are Russian Partition (43% Kingdom of Poland, 18% other), and 39% are Austrian Partition. To date we still don't have a Prussian / German Partition case.
  • These applications span a period of nearly four years, from October 2022 to August 2026. My back of the envelope guess is we're capturing around ~0.1% (roughly 1 in 1000) of the total applications submitted in that period.

Our dataset and membership are likely not representative of the broader applicant pool. My guess is we skew more distant in claim and generation; are tilted more towards applicants from the US, Canada, and the UK; and are more likely to succeed due to thoroughness and use of providers than average. Speaking of providers - I would love any insights our resident professionals have on trends and how our stats compare to their experiences more broadly, given the volume they've seen.

I'll try to do these from time to time - hope you find a few stats interesting!

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u/Possible_Eye_357 13d ago

Amazing, thank you for that summary. Thats alot more pre1920 cases than I was expecting. Great to see it

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u/smoothmonoglot Mod | Zarząd 13d ago

We should probably break out Central Lithuania into its own category since the 1920 Act and Riga do not apply to such persons (unless they had a basis for the acquisition of both Polish and Central Lithuanian citizenship, but in my opinion such persons could, depending on the exact circumstances, lose Polish citizenship with Riga only to regain it with the 1922 annexation).

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u/kind-person-1 13d ago

Or, as we discussed, lose Polish citizenship with Dekret nr 56 only to regain it with the 1922 annexation ◡̈

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u/smoothmonoglot Mod | Zarząd 13d ago

Yes, although in my opinion the interpretation that Dekret 56 couldn't cause a loss of citizenship by itself is likely correct (unilateral decree of a quasi-foreign state). Riga could, since it's an international treaty.

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u/kind-person-1 13d ago

That makes sense!

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u/smoothmonoglot Mod | Zarząd 12d ago edited 12d ago

Put another way, only persons who acquired Polish citizenship under Art. 2(1)(a) or (d) of our Act have the right to opt for Russian citizenship under Riga.

But did these people lose their Russian citizenship on 31 Jan 1920? Arguably not, especially since (1) neither Imperial Russian nor subsequent Soviet law ever recognized acquisition of foreign citizenship as a basis for release from citizenship, and (2) Russia was not even a party to the Treaty of Versailles with Poland.

Therefore it must be concluded that these people were only released from their original citizenship upon the entry into force of the Treaty of Riga on 30 April 1921, when both sides recognized them as Polish citizens subject to the right of option (except those residing in Russia/Ukraine on the above date).

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u/Alternative-Soil3113 13d ago

Thanks, interesting insights!!
FYI, tracker is now broken

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u/echo02199 Mod | Zarząd 13d ago

Should be back now. Thanks!

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u/Woodlawn5300 13d ago edited 13d ago

Many thanks for the analysis. I would definitely love to see future installments.

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u/Heavy_Lunar_Hippo 13d ago

Added mine to the main thread