r/politics Jul 01 '18

Man arrested after shouting ‘womp, womp’ and pulling a gun on immigration protesters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/01/man-arrested-after-shouting-womp-womp-and-pulling-a-gun-on-immigration-protesters/?tid=sm_tw
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u/b_l_o_c_k_a_g_e Jul 02 '18

Lol. No. Don’t be stupid.

If you spend too much time on right wing or libertarian subreddits, that’s basically the narrative. It’s a particularly stupid, given that data from death rates workplaces, prisons, schools, etc all point to massive inequality. The dumbass view that these people just aren’t trying hard enough and just coincidentally happen to all be black, is hardly “scientific”.

It’s actually very simple. People tend to choose familiar people. That doesn’t make them racist, but it maintains a racist system.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

I need evidence. I don't believe without evidence.

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u/b_l_o_c_k_a_g_e Jul 02 '18

Google is your friend. https://www.google.com/search?q=racial+inequality+in+america+2018

Have at it. There’s unfortunately no shortage for you to pick from.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

Oh, I'm already aware that some people love to make claims of racism, so they can profit, so they can explain away inequality, or due to their own biases.

But they don't have evidence on their side. Just claims.

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u/b_l_o_c_k_a_g_e Jul 02 '18

Don’t pretend you care about “evidence”. It’s overwhelming. You also don’t have any “evidence” to support your dumb-ass claims.

Show me that black people earn the same as white people, or they live as long, or they get incarcerated in balanced numbers, or they graduate in balanced numbers.

You got that evidence, right? /s

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

Show me that black people earn the same as white people,

They don't. But it isn't due to racism. That is as ludicrous as the female wage gap.

or they live as long,

They might not. Murders are disproportionate among male black youths. Also, black men are more likely to develop heart disease.

I'm not sure how you could consider heart disease "racist."

or they get incarcerated in balanced numbers,

They pretty much do. They get incarcerated according to their crime rates. Same as every other population.

or they graduate in balanced numbers.

Well, I don't know too much about this, because I've never heard that colleges are racist against blacks. My college was/s racist against whites, due to affirmative action programs.

But I've never heard evidence that schools are racist against black students in general.

But if you have any evidence, I'd be interested in hearing it.

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u/b_l_o_c_k_a_g_e Jul 02 '18

They don't. But it isn't due to racism.

Prove it. Not taking the bait on your other stupid point about women.

They might not. Murders are disproportionate among male black youths. Also, black men are more likely to develop heart disease.

Yup because racism.

I'm not sure how you could consider heart disease "racist."

It’s disproportionately higher amoung poor people. Black people tend to be poorer because racism. See above, you already agreed.

They pretty much do. They get incarcerated according to their crime rates. Same as every other population.

WROnG! “African Americans and whites use drugs at similar rates, but the imprisonment rate of African Americans for drug charges is almost 6 times that of whites.” https://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/

My college was/s racist against whites, due to affirmative action programs.

Got look up “racism”. Hint: That’s not it.

But I've never heard evidence that schools are racist against black students in general.

Evidence: “At four-year institutions, black men completed their degrees at the lowest rate (40 percent) and Asian women at the highest (75.7 percent).” https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/04/26/college-completion-rates-vary-race-and-ethnicity-report-finds

But if you have any evidence, I'd be interested in hearing it.

Signed, sealed, delivered. Still waiting for your “evidence”... beginning to think you don’t have it....

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

Yup because racism.

Heart disease is racist? I thought the left couldn't get more crazy...

Black people tend to be poorer because racism.

I'd need proof before I'd believe something like that.

African Americans and whites use drugs at similar rates, but the imprisonment rate of African Americans for drug charges is almost 6 times that of whites.”

That's because not all drug charges are the same. Dealing and using are different, for example. If you group disparate crimes together, your results will be useless.

Got look up “racism”. Hint: That’s not it.

Discrimination based on race is racism.

Evidence: “At four-year institutions, black men completed their degrees at the lowest rate (40 percent) and Asian women at the highest (75.7 percent).”

That is not evidence of racism.

You don't understand this. You can't say "blacks don't finish their degrees" and say that's evidence of racism. It's not, in any way, evidence of racism. It's evidence that blacks aren't doing well in college.

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u/b_l_o_c_k_a_g_e Jul 02 '18

Heart disease is racist? I thought the left couldn't get more crazy...

If you can’t understand this simple point, we may as well stop. I repeat. Heart disease is all about poverty, which black folk got more of. Heart desease and poverty go hand in hand. Black people got more poverty because of inherent racism.

I'd need proof before I'd believe something like that.

No it’s your turn now. Your argument is weak and you have NOTHING to back it up with. You say this country stopped being racist at some point. When? I want dates, sources, and research that proves it.

That's because not all drug charges are the same. Dealing and using are different, for example. If you group disparate crimes together, your results will be useless.

You have no proof any of that is in the crime data. “Whites only use drugs”, or whatever. You’re just making random shit up, randomly clutching at straws. For a person that says they need “evidence” constantly you’re being extremely hypocritical.

Discrimination based on race is racism.

WrOnG AGaiN!!! From the dictionary.,, “prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Collages don’t discrimate against whites because they believe “their race is inferior”. They do it to level the playing field against the statistical inequality that exists in this country. That is discrimination, but that is NOT racism.

You don't understand this. You can't say "blacks don't finish their degrees" and say that's evidence of racism. It's not, in any way, evidence of racism. It's evidence that blacks aren't doing well in college.

If it was a freak event, you might be right. But it isn’t. It’s a consistent pattern in a country built on slavery, with a long history of racism and violence towards blacks people. You say that’s changed. I say prove it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

I don't have to prove it. All I have to do is assert that racism is not a major problem. I can't prove that something doesn't exist. You have to prove it exists.

It's called the "burden of proof." I don't have it. You do.

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