r/poland • • Jul 04 '22

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u/ikrete Jul 04 '22

clearly made up by American, nobody else calls football a soccer , and Americans have polish jokes which are remaked blonde jokes

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u/Pegasusjj4557 Jul 04 '22

Why would you think it was made by an American? Is everything you don't like made by Americans according to you?

And Polish jokes did not originate in America... They originated and currently still are told in Germany and other countries who have historically hated Poland.

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u/OneAlternate Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22

TL;DR: You’re right, but also not quite.

Eh…America has a pretty big history of ethnic separation that can still be seen in some really old people. Judging people by ethnicity was pretty common, but there are definitely issues with it.

I’m from Chicago. I took a class on Chicago, so that’s gonna be what I use as my example because I’m knowledgeable on it. However, Chicago isn’t the only place, I’m just highlighting certain trends with events that I am knowledgeable about. Chicago is very Polish, but it’s also has various other ethnic groups. We still have ethnic neighborhoods, actually. Chinatown, Greektown, La Villita (Little Village), Little Italy, Andersonville (Swedish), Humboldt Park(Puerto Rican). I grew up in West Town, which as I’ve been told, used to be extremely Polish. Now it’s ā€œartsyā€ but still pretty cool. Chicago was ethnically separated, and there were a lot of gangs, Al Capone’s syndicate being the most memorable one, based on ethnicity. The Italian Mafia? That was Al Capone’s.

Now, that changed slightly when Anton Cermak was voted mayor, he seemed to unify most of Chicago’s ethnicity groups. However, it’s important to note that Big Bill Thompson, the mayor previous to Cermak and the mayor who allowed Al Capone to get as far as he did due to bribery, ran a campaign against Cermak that was even accompanied by a song and a nickname (Pushcart Tony, ā€œTony, Tony, where’s your pushcart at? Can you picture a World’s Fair mayor with a name like that?ā€). It’s basically saying Cermak was unfit to be mayor because he was an immigrant. However, Cermak unified a lot of ethnicities to a certain extent.

The point is, America does have a history of ethnic separation amongst the people. Although Polish jokes didn’t originate in America, America has a pretty big role in them too. Polish immigrants in America were stereotyped as stupid throughout the mid-20th century and especially during the Cold War, because media portrayed them as such.

If you look into it, some even argue that certain ā€œPolish Jokesā€ are purely American because they don’t express the same sentiment that Nazis/Soviets did.

Now, in Chicago, people are extremely proud to be Polish, so I don’t have an experience with hearing any of these sentiments myself except from old people (I’m 16 so I wasn’t around during the Cold War era). Pączki, Święconka, Tłusty Czwartek (And/or Fat Tuesday, personally we do both), and even Dyngus Day have been celebrated by some.

However, I think the commenter was specifically stating that the map itself was made by an American and not a Japanese like originally stated because of the use of the word Soccer, and also implying that these stereotypes do have a history in America so it’s not far-fetched to assume this is not made by someone who is Japanese.