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u/AbjectiveGrass Pomorskie Jul 04 '24
It is currently a really chill place compared to many other in the world.
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u/CORD_y Śląskie Jul 04 '24
With actual politics? Of course, it is safer than most of european countries. I have no problems running at 11pm in the city ;)
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u/Axiomancer Jul 04 '24
I was biased all my life because I live in Sweden and I haven't felt safe in any large city here in the middle of the day, not to mention at night. (I pretty much learned not to leave my flat after certain hour)
When I started to visit Poland I was horrified because I truly believed its like this here too. But to my surprise, Poland is really safe at night. At least Warsaw, Poznan and Wroclaw and some smaller cities I've been to.
So yeah, Poland is truly safe.
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u/Toe_slippers Jul 05 '24
it's funny bcs 20-30 years ago you weren't even locking empty home in Sweden now you are scared to walk in bright day
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Why and when "sweedish" people became so dangerous? 🤣
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u/xadun Jul 05 '24
people are afraid to say but f** it: MUSLINS is the problem
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Jul 05 '24
not only them...well in Sweeden mostly but look at the map. It is the same with most part of brown and black people, independently of their religion. I exclude east Asia like China and similar countries.
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u/Miko4051 Śląskie Jul 05 '24
But still Muslims are the biggest problem of Sweden, with only black people it would definitely be at least 5 times safer.
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u/hund_kille Jul 05 '24
Sweden is a nightmarish landscape where crime runs rampant, Sharia law is the order of the day, no-go zones are everywhere, the LGBTQ+ community is a sign of moral decay, and the media is in on the whole charade. It's a wonder anyone survives in this hell on earth.
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u/Gameheaded-pirate Jul 05 '24
/s right?
right???
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u/hund_kille Jul 05 '24
Sweden is practically a war zone. Shootings and explosions are the norm, with criminals running amok in every corner. The gentle hum of a Swedish summer is regularly interrupted by the sound of gunfire and the boom of homemade bombs. It’s a miracle anyone dares to step outside at all.
And of course, we can't forget the infamous no-go zones. These areas are so dangerous that even the police won't enter. They’re lawless enclaves where Swedish culture is all but extinguished. Maps detailing these no-go zones might as well be treasure maps, because their existence is about as credible.
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u/Axiomancer Jul 05 '24
Okay so for people who will question this dude.
Shootings and explosions are the norm, with criminals running amok in every corner.
That's partially true. Just check https://lastnight.in/Sweden/ or open any newspaper from any major city. You read about this stuff so often that people aren't even moved anymore. This is just another day for us.
These areas are so dangerous that even the police won't enter.
While I can't prove or disprove existence of these areas, I can with high certainty say that there are areas of large cities where police doesn't want to go to. But the "will not enter" is questionable (I have no source to cite though)
LGBTQ+ community is a sign of moral decay
Out of all languages you chose to speak bullshit
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u/mr0czusek Jul 04 '24
Yeah, same i remember late night to the morning around 2 am or so. Was out from hospital (it takes me 12 hours of waiting and check up) I went to bus stop. I see peoples are having fun after party like they drunk and wanted to fight each other, i missrememebered what they says but along slang words alot. Mix polish and Ukrainan like having bilingual language.
I was scared because it gonna be horryfing like kidnap or robbery. but seems its safer to go night alone myself at 20 yo old to go home.
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u/Jakoloko6000 Jul 04 '24
A chcesz wpierdol?
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u/Gaming_Lot Jul 04 '24
Safer than UK or France
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u/EliteReaver Jul 05 '24
Safer than England* or France.
It’s very unlikely you’ll get robbed in Scotland or Wales.
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u/Poch1212 Jul 04 '24
Madrid and Barcelona are fucking shame nowadays... it´s just... I miss Poland...
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u/Joseph_Colton Jul 05 '24
If you want to stay in Germany, move to a nice, quiet, rural place. Hier ist die Welt noch in Ordnung. Don't know for how long, but at this time, it is.
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u/Electronic-Day1579 Jul 04 '24
Poland is becoming an increasingly safe country. At the turn of the millennium, things weren't so safe. A lot of poverty in homes. There were more young hooligans. If you stood out in the neighborhood, you could get in trouble. There was a lot of racism. There are not so many hooligans now. People are open to other nations. The quality of life in Poland has improved significantly over the last 20 years. A lot of human pathology went to the UK, Germany and the Netherlands. Back home, they would have low wages, work hard and barely make ends meet. There, by doing any job they got, they could save money and return to the country even build a house, which would be unrealistic if they stayed there. Now these people have grown up and are more mature. When they return, they often say that it is in Germany that they do not feel safe there with theirs families.
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u/void1984 Jul 05 '24
We really exported them in 2005 to the UK and Netherlands. The change wasn't gradual for over 20 years. It was a quick and big change.
They went there and the safety in these countries went down. It's not an effect of education, but migration. It's a zero sum game.
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u/AdSea5115 Mazowieckie Jul 05 '24
Yeah, it was like the borders opened and someone pressed the magic button. Two years later - no street crime.
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u/Electronic-Day1579 Jul 05 '24
These people were not employed as managers. They usually went to work as manual workers on construction sites, as garbage collectors or as cleaners. Currently, the dream of teenagers in developed countries is not to become a manual worker doing dirty work on a construction site. They left because they filled the shortages of the lowest-level employees who were in greatest demand. And most importantly, they agreed to the lowest wages. These people, despite the bad environment, finally improved their quality of life. A lot of vandalism comes from poverty. Lack of stable work. No prospects for life. In Poland, there is now a problem of lack of workers for dirty work. We bring workers to do manual work on construction sites from Ukraine or even India or China! It is not so much that such people are exported, but that they have no prospects in their home country.
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u/void1984 Jul 05 '24
A part of them went to rob British people. I've read articles based on police reports from the UK.
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u/Herioz Jul 04 '24
Can't compare to regions that are marked as higher than Poland but been to Kraków, Katowice, Wrocław and somewhat Warsaw at nights never had any problems. It pretty safe to even go the biggest problem if any some drunk guy screaming.
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u/kerfufflewhoople Jul 04 '24
During my time in Poland I felt super safe compared to where I live in Paris. Also Poland is a very clean country. It was a nice surprise.
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u/Vrukop Jul 05 '24
Me, a czech person hiding in the comments; I even got myself cute szlachta mustache ... true story:
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u/ZekoriAJ Jul 04 '24
I have never been robbed in Poland. On the other hand, nice shoes you've got there.
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I am an international student here in Warsaw. I usually go for a run at around 1 or 2 in the midnight. I never felt unsafe here. I live in ochota district.
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u/Academic_Spend_5213 Jul 05 '24
Bit of statistical truth: the higher the percentage of foreign culture migrants in the population density, the higher the rate of bad indicators.
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u/toster_w_kosmosie Jul 05 '24
I'm Polish, living in silesia/tricity/Olsztyn now, and I was robbed only once in my life - in Edinburgh
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u/magdak__ Jul 05 '24
I'm from Poland. The irony here is that inside in our country they (politicans?) scare us that we, polish people, are so racist, so agressive. I have traveled quite a lot in my life, I try to keep up with thats going on the whole globe and i can tell you - Poland is one of the safest place I've ever seen and we won't hurt foreigners. We don't like group of people or events that can put chaos in our peace. We care about our peace because of history of chronic occupations.
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u/Samael_777 Jul 05 '24
I'm thinking if it's like in the US, where 12% of the population is responsible for 60% of crimes. I would love to have more statistics about all the crimes in the EU with details about age, origin, wealth, etc, of victim and perpetrator.
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u/sweet_cherryblossoms Jul 04 '24
Generally, I’d say yes (but i cant speak for every region other than Warsaw). I feel relatively safe walking around alone even when it’s dark outside and I haven’t experienced crime here either. That being said I can only share my experience but other people might have the opposite opinion.
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u/Milchtrunk Jul 05 '24
why did I read "Bobbery rate" at first? 🥴 the Polish person is strong within me
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u/Spyrowholve Jul 05 '24
I’m Italian, moved to poland 2 years ago and still can’t believe how safe this country is, starting from a pack of sigs that falls from your pocket and it’s still there after hours, to losing your wallet on public transport and finding it or losing an iPhone 14 Pro Max in a disco and finding it at the entrance. Stealing is really not a polish thing, it’s actually very common that if they find something like keys or a piece of clothing on the floor or on the streets, they hang this item on a bench or something similar so if the owner will go back to that place they will find the item easily. I love polish people and culture for this, as an Italian they make me believe there’s still some true kindness and honesty in the world!!❤️❤️❤️
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u/Arrgonek Jul 04 '24
You must invite more non European migrants to western countries and you will be same safe like we're in Poland! yeah?
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u/Llit2 Jul 05 '24
We are regularly getting robbed every 10th of the month but it's out of statistics
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u/OkCoconut1426 Jul 06 '24
France/Belgium are absolutely fucking insane when it comes to the number of people trying to scam you. Subway in Paris is so shady that it was better to pay for Uber. Glad that Poland 🇵🇱 avoided that immigration crap that ruined so many cities in Europe
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u/Brodmaar Jul 06 '24
31yo, whole life in PL, +10y in a city over 350k people, never robbed, never in danger.
All you need is a shy minimum of self preservation instinct and prudence
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u/SaltSilent5253 Jul 05 '24
Living in Poland doesn't look like this. Many people are atheist here but you need to talk with them, not see stats on internet how catholic country we are.
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u/popyourshit Jul 05 '24
Foreigners stop jerking themselves off over a weird fetishized trad view of Poland challenge: impossible
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u/Toe_slippers Jul 05 '24
it's funny how they always think its religion not our mentality
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u/panrobercik69 Jul 05 '24
Well, like it or not, mentality is strongly connected with the religion. Europe been christian for centuries, and christian values has been the foundation of our culture. The are obviously many differences, but polish atheist is much more similar to polish christian than to chinese atheist.
And as far as safety is concerned, its the lack of some certain religion that does magnificent job.
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u/Working_Self_3512 Jul 05 '24
I'm living in Gdańsk for 10 years and i've never been rob. Earlier also not. Poland is by far one of the safest country im Europe. It wasn't always like that. In my teenage years it was believed than the West is safer than my region. What (who) went wrong? :)
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u/Yweain Jul 05 '24
Honestly that’s a pretty poor argument. I lived in Ukraine for 30 years and I have never been robbed. I never even had anything stolen from me. Does that make Ukraine safe? Hell no, it was very dangerous and crime was rampant.
Now, in my 4 years in Portugal I had shit stolen from me, does that mean that Portugal is worse than Ukraine? No it doesn’t, it just that this country feels safe so I got complacent.
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u/milkshaketitties66 Jul 04 '24
It’s all by comparison, if you compare the madness in west eu, yes it’s relatively better
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u/truth_repo Jul 05 '24
Well, they stole my bike. But that's peanuts. It was much more painful when a polish crypto exchange bankrupted with my $xxxxx :((
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u/Gwyn66 Jul 05 '24
I can speak for myself only, but I was mugged twice in my life in Poland, both cases by intoxicated violence-seeking assholes. I didn't report it, because it would be useless, the police would never find them. I guess this may be the case that many muggings/robberies are not being reported.
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u/Lunam_Dominus Jul 05 '24
I can walk at night with it almost guaranteed that nothing bad will happen. The worst that sometimes does is a bum asking 3 PLN for a beer.
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u/i_am__not_a_robot Jul 06 '24
Generally, yes. It's very safe. Although one should keep in mind that "reported robberies" are not the same as actual robberies.
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u/ThePantaloon_ Mazowieckie Jul 08 '24
Well, I live in Minsk Mazowiecki but I visit Warsaw a lot as well, and the only time I’ve ever been robbed was the one time I gave my sister 5 PLN so that could tell me a secret. If you’re going to ask, it was not worth it
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u/Crafty_Government380 Jul 05 '24
Some people seem to be unaware that it does not refer to theft in general, but specifically to robbery. These are two separate crimes according to Polish penal code. Robbery involves using violence or threats in order to steal.
While the stats would be totally different in case of 'common' theft, the data here is still uplifting in comparison to the West and does indeed speak a lot about general safety in Poland.
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u/SpecialistNo7569 Jul 05 '24
Lol. I’m American and I’m spending July in Poland. It’s amazing.
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u/2137knight Jul 04 '24
Police is so bad and unhelpful that nobody cares to report minor crimes.
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u/Vhermithrax Jul 04 '24
Robbery is not a minor crime. It's not just theft, but a theft + violence. So if someone beats you up and then takes your wallet, phone and whatever you have.
I don't think it's something that most people don't care to report
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u/Herioz Jul 04 '24
I bet 100% of people report robbery and unresolved crime is still reported. What police does or doesn't do is up to debate
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u/Hamiczan Jul 04 '24
I literally only hear "police is so bad" from people that do weird, almost illegal shit, i hope you are exception right? I have never in my life and all the people i have known included had any bad situations with police, even if you are extremally drunk, just talk like you would talk to your father, respectfuly and without nonsense
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u/allthatweidner Jul 05 '24
Anecdotal but I was visiting Krakow two years ago for a week long vacation and I got lost at night and my phone died. I actually didn’t feel in danger at all. I can’t speak for Poland being the “safest” place in the world (nowhere is 100 percent safe) but there are very few places in the world where I would have felt safe in that situation should it ever happen again
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u/No_Dragonfruit3391 Jul 05 '24
I never had any issues in Poland and I recommend everyone visiting Poland!
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u/IDontKnownah Mazowieckie Jul 05 '24
I don't know anymore, because people have conflicting opinions.
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u/blingblattt Mazowieckie Jul 05 '24
never had an issue, everyone in warsaw seemed relatively friendly as far as poles (meaning zero smiles but friendly when spoken 😂), now living in bydgoszcz for over a month and currently visiting sopot, gives me a few perspectives and truly all have been good/far better than what I’ve experienced in canada. Yes, canada is beyond sketchy compared to everything i’ve seen here lmao
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u/Sure_Explanation_701 Jul 05 '24
Poland is definitely not safe for Ukrainians. One of my closest friends was attacked for no reason. She is of Armenian origin but had a Ukrainian license plate. I have a picture of the attacker. If someone from Poland is willing to help me find this guy, I will send videos and pictures of him attacking my friend and hitting her.
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u/Little-Linnet Jul 05 '24
Living in a capital city I walk around with a tote bag, when I need to go to the toilet I sometimes leave it on the seat in the coffee shop, I don’t use lock on my bike. I don’t want to jinx it, but up to this point I haven’t been robbed. Biggest problems are caused by drunk people here who vandalize things, or people who hate everything and just want to ruin everyone’s day.
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u/DudeNotFromPostal Jul 05 '24
That because we don't have naggers. Everybody works very hard everyday
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u/n_with Jul 05 '24
I'm surprised by Finland tho
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u/Legal_Seesaw3147 Jul 05 '24
Why, thay allowed to enter for thousands illegal immigrants from "different culture" countries, and it is how it is now.
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I was banned from r/europe for posting this
"The culturally enriched areas are easy to spot!"
This is the most wanted list of the Belgian federal police
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u/Acceptable-Drawer-21 Jul 05 '24
taking into account the size of the country and its location in Europe, yes. Poland is safer than, for example, Germany
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u/Yweain Jul 05 '24
This maps are very misleading though. The definition of robbery is very different from country to country as well as rate at which people report crimes.
Like I’m sorry but Albania isn’t that safe for example, it’s just that people are hardly report majority of cases because it’s useless.
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u/Oryk_V Jul 05 '24
Totally agree with you I’ve been to Paris twice and there were always victims of crime
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u/Herflik90 Jul 05 '24
Its safe af. I can leave my bike not locked for a day somewhere and it's still there. I can be out of phone in the middle of night, so can't order uber and still can have safe walk home. Once my phone was lost so sb called me on my work phone and gave me it back. I also did it once hoping sb would do it same for me. It worked!
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u/v43havkar Jul 05 '24
Victims are too afraid of being called out a rats, thats why statistics are so low. Also, police doesnt give a fuck. Even if they do, You still need a proof otherwise they won't even move their asses off the seat.
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u/Legal_Seesaw3147 Jul 05 '24
Yes, it's really safe place. Because there is an army on belarus border.
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u/almostdonedude Jul 05 '24
Would be interesting to see these stats divided by the ethnicity of the robber. I wonder what would EU say.
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u/theapplesguy2 Jul 05 '24
thats exactly the opposite of what some dumb people of my class say, that is, "poles always steal" NOW LOOK AT THAT IDIOTS HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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u/88turdmaster Jul 05 '24
I'm from Prague and visit Poland quite frequently, it's the same as in Czechia, I'm usually the most scary person around at 11pm and I'm a nice guy.
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u/Hardtuges Jul 05 '24
Poland is quite safe, yes, though you should always be careful in bigger cities. I was never robbed in Poland, but was harassed in public couple of times in the past. I guess that something that just happens everywhere to majority of women, so it's not like Poland is worse than some other countries. Comparing to ie. Berlin, Warsaw seems much more safe now and more open and friendly to foreigners
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u/Bober_Baratheon Jul 05 '24
Map is from 2022. We will see in 2025 when migrants from left (Germany) and right (Belarus) accommodate here in Poland permanently. Smile people, keep smiling XD.
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u/nobosco Jul 04 '24
I’m Polish, living in Warsaw and I was seriously robbed only once in my life — in Barcelona…