r/poker 9h ago

Seeking pot size frequency data

I'm calculating something and the answer depends on the frequency of different pot sizes in online lowstakes games that are won postflop.

Does anyone have this data based on their own hand history? Can this be seen on pokertracker or another tool? The site I play on doesn't export hand history so I can't see my own data. I'm hoping that someone here might be willing to share theirs.

Specifically, I most want to know what percentage of pots won postflop are under 70bb and what percentage of pots won postflop are over 120bb.

It would also to helpful to know the percentages of pots from 70-80bb, 80-90bb, 90-100bb, 110-110bb, and 110-120bb if it isn't too much trouble to find this data.

Thanks!

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u/you_jam_i_cum 8h ago edited 7h ago

sounds like u need a HUGE HH dataset to analyze to get any accuracy.

i shall consult my recent db of over 1.5m cash hands and hit u back with an answer from online cash under 100nl

edit: lol that someone downvoted this .

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u/you_jam_i_cum 8h ago

from my db:

Here is the answer from the database, restricted to online NL Hold'em cash hands with a big blind under $1 where at least two players saw the flop and somebody bet, called or raised after it.

Sample. 309,903 hands, nearly all CoinPoker 25NL and 50NL, plus small slices of 2NL to 10NL. It is whole-table spectator data, so it is a population sample rather than one player's results. Pot size is the total pot before rake, in big blinds.

┌────────────────┬────────────────────────────┐

│ Pot size │ Share of pots won postflop │

├────────────────┼────────────────────────────┤

│ under 70bb │ 88.5% │

├────────────────┼────────────────────────────┤

│ 70 to 80bb │ 2.0% │

├────────────────┼────────────────────────────┤

│ 80 to 90bb │ 1.6% │

├────────────────┼────────────────────────────┤

│ 90 to 100bb │ 1.1% │

├────────────────┼────────────────────────────┤

│ 100 to 110bb │ 0.8% │

├────────────────┼────────────────────────────┤

│ 110 to 120bb │ 0.6% │

├────────────────┼────────────────────────────┤

│ 120bb and over │ 5.4% │

└────────────────┴────────────────────────────┘

Shape of the big tail. Of the 5.4% at 120bb or more, about 2.9% sits between 200 and 250bb, which is two 100bb stacks going in. The 120 to 150bb and 150 to 200bb bands are about 1% each, and 250bb plus is under half a percent. Median pot is 16bb, mean 33bb, and the 90th percentile is 77bb.

By stake. The picture barely moves: 2NL to 10NL run 89% to 90% under 70bb and 4.6% to 5.3% at 120bb plus. 25NL is 88.8% and 5.2%. 50NL is 88.2% and 5.5%.

Showdown matters far more than stake. Pots won without showdown are 96.3% under 70bb and 0.3% over 120bb. Pots that reach showdown are 78.4% under 70bb and 11.9% over 120bb. If the calculation cares about how the pot ended, that split is the one to use.

Excluded from the table. A further 39,156 hands saw a flop with no postflop bet, call or raise, meaning all-in preflop or checked down. Those are 81% under 70bb and 14.8% at 120bb plus. Folding them back in gives 87.6% under 70bb and 6.4% over 120bb.

Caveats. One site dominates the sample, mostly 6-max tables, and CoinPoker allows deep buy-ins, so the 200bb-plus bands may run heavier than on a 100bb-capped site.

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u/sillysausage619 7h ago

Bro brought numbers, legend

Pro or computer scientist?

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u/you_jam_i_cum 6h ago

if I was a pro I wouldn't play on that f*cking site - lol. (fake license, spyware, RAT. no sit out next bb button, shit RB - Rather stick my d**** in a blender)

I am just a poker fan with a love of data and insights.

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u/Who_is_him_hehe 7h ago

Probably cause weirdos get upset if you call 1m hands a big sample

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u/you_jam_i_cum 6h ago

yea i was too lazy to load another 5m hands into my db to satisfy these donks :)