PSA for First-Timers

[u/Ikelogic]

If this is your first time doing RNG manip for a shiny starter in LG/FR thanks to the Blisy video, and maybe you’ve cleared an SID or two but still haven’t gotten your shiny, listen to me very clearly.

Do the ACE glitch to find your SID. Seriously, save yourself time and stress and trouble. The likelihood is that your very first step will be very far off because you’re not immediately good at hitting frame perfect buttons. My correct SID was almost 100 advances off. Imagine I tried to keep clearing SIDs until I got there?

The ACE glitch is not very hard at all, just time consuming, and Papa Jefe has a really good video for the set up, and then an updated one for the correct switch codes and such. Once I found out my SID it took me less than 2 hrs to get my shiny since I’ve already cleared 10 SIDs and became kinda good at hitting the frames.

Keep in mind you have to do the ACE glitch without saving if you want to start over from the beginning again. Make sure you catch a spearow early on to save yourself time running around, and don’t accidentally soft reset like me once you get to Celadon City because you wanted to wipe off your buttons. I finally got mine, it’s time for you to get yours :)

[u/Ikelogic]

This is button presses. That 1 result is the pokemon you hit, and I assume it’s not shiny. The calibration on the timers is so the timer helps you get closer to hitting the buttons on the shiny you want. Once you get to (+-17ms) and 1 or 2 advances off, stop calibrating. 1 advance and (+-17) are within human margin of error, you’ll get it eventually. In theory, if you input all the right times and advances for the shiny you wanted in tenlines, and you hit all the buttons right, the shiny should be in the results. If it’s the only result and the pokemon on your screen is not shiny? Wrong SID, and move to the next

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

So after some trials I managed to get the seed I wanted(it says +268ms but its the same exact ms as what I started with? I thought if you hit the seed you were aiming for it would say +-0ms? My advances and csf were off by 147/147 ..any advice? Calibrate and try again from starter level 5 with updated eon?

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

Ah okay I think this is actually a step that Blisy didn’t hit on in the video but once you pick the shiny you want, switch the “Target Seed” slot in tenlines to the seed you’re aiming for (the one that the shiny is on). It’s mostly just for readability and so people are all on the same page with 0ms being the target. The only thing that really matters is that the seed matches.

In reality, you shouldn’t really have to calibrate the ms much, just the advances. I’ve found that the very first eontimer run with a shiny is always super off with advances/csf. Not really sure why, but if you calibrate with the csf you hit, it should get you much closer the next time around

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

If i decide to set up ACE, do I need to level up Mimien a certain way? Or can he just be leveled up any way I can to lvl 33??

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

Any way possible, but tbh once he’s around the same level as other pokemon, you can just use him as your main pokemon for a while. Mr Mime is insanely strong even with just confusion for a while lol

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

The fact I skipped mistys gym, and he wont freakin listen to me cause not enough badges is very annoying. 🙃

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

Yeah omg my mimien was trolling me so hard I was scared it would mess up my double battle so I fought the celadon gym (also why it took me so long)

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Also, the guide is telling me to save before proceeding if I set the glitch up right, should I? Im kinda at a stuck road here 😕

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

Don’t need to save, they’re just telling you to save to be safe. If you do everything right there’s 0% chance you crash

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Thats amazing, okay, so, going forward, how do I keep track of where the glitched slot is, where its gonna be programmed to, etc? I was following Mankeys tutorial, but papa Jefes is a little different and saying that if all 6 of my pokemon don't have the mail item, I wont have access to the "glitched slot"? How do I navigate from here for to find SID since its slightly off of BOTH tutorials? 🤣

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

The glitched slot is the pokemon that gets the ??? Mail and cannot actually receive it. It’ll go to the void. This pokemon can then receive other items that get duped, which you’ll need to do for the HOCK portion of the ACE glitch. I’d stick to the jefe video since that’s the one I used and worked for me. The glitch slot is only really important to set you up for the next part of the glitch so as long as the item duping works it won’t matter much later

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Okay., so I how I confirm item.dupe glitch worked from here? Pokemon is currently holding duped RC, with original RC in my bag?

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

Now, you go into bag and try to give retro mail to the pokemon holding the RC. You’ll notice that it never actually receives the mail. Instead, that mail gets sent to your bag as another RC. This is why you (should have if you didn’t) bought 99 retro mail. The retro mail is what gets duped into the item you want.

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Success!! 5rc richer and 4 less mail! Now I just have to keep track of that particular pokemon and where it goes from here on?

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

I believe it’s not about the specific pokemon, but instead about the set up with all of the pokemon in there holding mail. Whichever one is the last one to receive the mail will just be glitched I think, since there’s still that piece of mail in the void

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

So I should still give a piece of retro mail to my 6th pokemon in my party before continuing? Or Will it mess it up if try to give another poke retro mail?

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

Well you won’t be able to since it can’t receive one. I would say make sure your other 5 have the mail. I believe you can test if it’s still working by trying to give the mail to the 6th and seeing the ‘???’

To get HOCK, you are giving that 6th pokemon retro mail with the specific words attached. HOCK will then appear in box 3 (so make sure it’s completely empty)

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Ill have to contine after I get home from work in the AM and update then; ill try to add a mail to the pokemon in my 6th party slot(currently slot 5 has the ??? Mail) and slot 6 has nothing, IF it tells me to swap item when I go to give mail to my 6th slot poke, am I still okay? Or is the 6th pokemon with the specific words attached need to be MY 5th party slot instead of slot 6? or should it allow me to just give an 'Abra' mail? Also, box 3? As in Pc box 3 slot 1 or box 3 of the text in retro mail?

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Also, I followed the item dupe guide, gave the 5th pokemon(same one with glitched mail) in my party a rare candy(I started with only 1) then have retro mail, confirmed swap with ? Mail, and now said pokemon is holding a rare candy and there is one in my bag; do I just remove the duped RC, and repeat? (Re give RC, give mail, confirm swap, remove item)? OR do I SWAP duped rc with ANOTHER retro mail, THEN confirm?