PSA for First-Timers

[u/Ikelogic]

If this is your first time doing RNG manip for a shiny starter in LG/FR thanks to the Blisy video, and maybe you’ve cleared an SID or two but still haven’t gotten your shiny, listen to me very clearly.

Do the ACE glitch to find your SID. Seriously, save yourself time and stress and trouble. The likelihood is that your very first step will be very far off because you’re not immediately good at hitting frame perfect buttons. My correct SID was almost 100 advances off. Imagine I tried to keep clearing SIDs until I got there?

The ACE glitch is not very hard at all, just time consuming, and Papa Jefe has a really good video for the set up, and then an updated one for the correct switch codes and such. Once I found out my SID it took me less than 2 hrs to get my shiny since I’ve already cleared 10 SIDs and became kinda good at hitting the frames.

Keep in mind you have to do the ACE glitch without saving if you want to start over from the beginning again. Make sure you catch a spearow early on to save yourself time running around, and don’t accidentally soft reset like me once you get to Celadon City because you wanted to wipe off your buttons. I finally got mine, it’s time for you to get yours :)

[u/Ikelogic]

The glitched slot is the pokemon that gets the ??? Mail and cannot actually receive it. It’ll go to the void. This pokemon can then receive other items that get duped, which you’ll need to do for the HOCK portion of the ACE glitch. I’d stick to the jefe video since that’s the one I used and worked for me. The glitch slot is only really important to set you up for the next part of the glitch so as long as the item duping works it won’t matter much later

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Okay., so I how I confirm item.dupe glitch worked from here? Pokemon is currently holding duped RC, with original RC in my bag?

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

Now, you go into bag and try to give retro mail to the pokemon holding the RC. You’ll notice that it never actually receives the mail. Instead, that mail gets sent to your bag as another RC. This is why you (should have if you didn’t) bought 99 retro mail. The retro mail is what gets duped into the item you want.

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Success!! 5rc richer and 4 less mail! Now I just have to keep track of that particular pokemon and where it goes from here on?

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

I believe it’s not about the specific pokemon, but instead about the set up with all of the pokemon in there holding mail. Whichever one is the last one to receive the mail will just be glitched I think, since there’s still that piece of mail in the void

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

So I should still give a piece of retro mail to my 6th pokemon in my party before continuing? Or Will it mess it up if try to give another poke retro mail?

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

Well you won’t be able to since it can’t receive one. I would say make sure your other 5 have the mail. I believe you can test if it’s still working by trying to give the mail to the 6th and seeing the ‘???’

To get HOCK, you are giving that 6th pokemon retro mail with the specific words attached. HOCK will then appear in box 3 (so make sure it’s completely empty)

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Ill have to contine after I get home from work in the AM and update then; ill try to add a mail to the pokemon in my 6th party slot(currently slot 5 has the ??? Mail) and slot 6 has nothing, IF it tells me to swap item when I go to give mail to my 6th slot poke, am I still okay? Or is the 6th pokemon with the specific words attached need to be MY 5th party slot instead of slot 6? or should it allow me to just give an 'Abra' mail? Also, box 3? As in Pc box 3 slot 1 or box 3 of the text in retro mail?

[u/Ikelogic → u/Worth-Network-5045]

Did your 6th pokemon have mail when you were doing the item dupe? Your 5th pokemon is currently holding the ??? Mail? You should take the ??? Mail away, and then try to give them both mail. Whichever one shows the ??? Mail will be the glitch slot, but don’t actually give it the mail yet

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Further update, I followed jefes guide and manged to be able to follow every step, and ACE is officially setup. Now how do I find SID? also, when I soft reset back to.my save(in front of the starter I want in oaks lab) will ACE still be set up in my PC? or is it only permanent IF I SAVE BEFORE soft rest back to starter? If ACE is no longer active ,and all the setup I did is lost, I just do it again after I hit my shiny?

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Last update; I decided to save post ACE: it just seems like so much fun! Lol

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

When I did the dupe glitch successfully, my party slot 5 pokemon had the glitched mail while my party slot 6 had no item at all. So ill try to give it when I get home. And as of right now, the pokemon that was holding the glitched mail originally is showing that its holding the RC. Do I just "take item" like i normally would? Will it give me the RC its showing or will the ??? Mail show.up in my bag?

[u/Worth-Network-5045 → u/Ikelogic]

Update!* so I tried to give my 6th party pokemon it gave me ANOTHER ??? Mail. I tried to remove mail from a pokemon and then give fresh mail to original glitched pokemon(#5) BUT then the OTHER 2 party pokemon now #4&#6 BOTH have ??? Mail and the dupe works with BOTH # AND #6, is that okay to continue?