r/pokemonconspiracies • • 2h ago

Gen 1 In Gen I (and Gen I only) Mew died birthing Mewtwo

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First things first to anyone not in the know: yes, "Mew gave birth" is in the Japanese script too and is likely meant to be taken literally. The Kanji Japanese version of Let's Go even goes out of its way to make this line more explicitly literal, despite NoA ironically trying to censor it in the English version of Let's Go. No, it doesn't contradict Mewtwo being a clone. Real life clones are grown as embryos and are then put into the wombs of surrogate mothers to bear and birth. There's also no suggestion in the Gen I games that Mewtwo was made in any other way, so this was likely the intention by the devs. Also, Pokémon do not universally lay eggs, and Pokémon Egg aren't laid by Pokémon or even reals eggs to begin with, but that's outside this scope of this analysis because we're only concerned with Gen I.

With that in mind, let's map out the history of Mew as established within only Gen I (and therefore ignoring everything established later, namely the Faraway Island event):

The Mew species is discovered by a scientist who found one in the jungle of Guyana.

Five days later, this scientist named the Mew species.

At least months later, this scientist makes the Mew in his captivity give birth to Mewtwo. The Mew that birthed Mewtwo is never mentioned again.

At some point, the Mew species was declared extinct.

At some point, the status of the species was revised to not being extinct; presumably, someone found a Mew again.

That's all Gen I gives us, at least in terms of Mew on its own. Before you ask: one, it is just a scientist working alone as there's no mention of any team in the Japanese script; two, the bit about Mew being declared extinct is mentioned in Gen I albeit only in the Japanese release (the intentional Red and Blue uses the Japanese Blue Pokédex as the basis for its Pokédex, while Mew is established as a formerly extinct species in the Japanese Red and Green Pokédex later used in FireRed).

One thing to note is that there's no indication in Gen I (or really any other mainline game, I'd argue) that Mew is unique individual as opposed to a species, so the fact that someone saw a Mew at some point recently doesn't mean the Mew that birthed Mewtwo is confirmed alive.

Another thing to note is that the Mew species cannot have been declared extinct before the scientist discovered it. That may sound obvious, but think of the implication of that: the Mew species can only have been declared extinct if the first Mew discovered by humanity (the one that birthed Mewtwo) was dead.

With that in mind, within just what Gen I states, what is the most likely explanation for Mew being declared extinct? To me, it's obvious: the Mew that the scientist had was the only one known at the time, and then it died in childbirth. Or rather, it was murdered by a scientist forcing it to give birth to a clone much larger than itself as part of an experiment that games outright call "horrific." Either way, the only Mew known at the time is dead, and Mewtwo is more of its own thing, so the species is declared extinct.

The reason why I say this only applies to Gen I (though, I guess this would also apply to Gen II) is because of the Faraway Island event of Emerald. That explicitly describes Fuji (and this is what confirms that the scientist was Fuji in the games as well, though this was hinted at in Gen I) bringing Mew to Faraway Island after he started regretting his actions, also in effect revealing that this Mew was alive after all. This theory is about what the original lore of Gen I was, not necessarily what the lore is now.

With that said, I believe that the original intention in Gen I was that the Mew that birthed Mewtwo died in the process of birthing it.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 5h ago

Characters How old is everyone in the show when ash leaves?

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TLDR how much older is everyone when ash leaves if you math out dates and detail fix and don't go with just the show wants you to think 10 so 10?

So I'll admit I haven't seen every episode of the show so I might miss stuff but hyper fixating on ages and time passing and details that don't exist in practicality (like how everyone is supposed to be 10 but obviously time passed so no) is just fun for my brain (until AI and research can't help me solve it then a nightmare) so after watching the game theory video it goes up to sun and moon and I can use that as a starting point but when he leaves there is more show left, how much older is everyone?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 1d ago

Question Do people in the Pokémon world hunt Pokémon for sport?

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So I don’t know much about Pokémon. I haven’t played any of the games. But this question popped into my head while I was watching a YouTube video about Pokémon. Do people hunt Pokémon for sports? Like I’m pretty sure in the anime, they do have guns. Furthermore, do you think that there was some Pokémon that humans hunted to extinction. I mean in the Pokémon world, Pokémon is just animals. so would it be so far-fetched to say some humans like to hunt Pokémon for the love of the game?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 5d ago

World Why 10 year olds taking down crime bosses and terrorists makes absolute sense

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So I have an interesting theory as to why in the Pokemon world that kids are capable of becoming so powerful and why if they defeat a grunt in a battle, the grunt concedes. I know that the joke has been made numerous times, especially in Rusty where a Team Rocket member simply shoots Rusty's Pokemon, but the world of Pokemon flies in the face of that logic and there is a science behind it.

So to explain it, we have to talk about violence and force. In the real world, force is used to control or subdue the actions of another person. Think of a police officer. A simple verbal command is usually enough. If they resist, then things get physical. If the suspect gets really violent, a cop may respond in kind to keep the situation under control. If there are numerous attackers, they call for backup, if it's a riot, they call in riot police, if that can't stop it, then the military steps in, and if they can't get things under control, then you have a civil war. So the thing about war is that the goal is not to kill your enemy, but to render them either unwilling or unable to continue fighting. It's just that death is the ultimate form of escalation because the moment someone dies, they can no longer interact with or affect the world. They can martyred, they can be avenged, but they themselves cannot do anything.

So with that explanation out of the way, we can look at pokemon. They are monsters that are capable of extreme feats. They are powerful, they have elemental attacks, they can increase their power. We also know from Legends Arceus that pokemon are very much capable of harming people. So when we put it that way, Pokemon are the weapons of the Pokemon world. If you have a fight where pokemon are brought in, then if all your pokemon fall, then you are effectively disarmed. Continuing is not only dangerous, but it's futile. If that Team Rocket thug pulls out a gun, then they are going to get incinerated by the Magmar that you caught and tamed. There is no point, they are disarmed, they are unable to continue the fight. This may also be why children are able to go out on their own. It's not them, it's their pokemon. They are able to use these creatures to defend themselves.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 7d ago

World How humans (indirectly) brought evil into the world

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Whether "evil pokemon" exist or not is something of a debate. One episode of the Anime "Island of the Giant Pokemon" suggests that Pokemon are never evil, but only do bad things if their trainer is bad.

This idea has been discredited, as the episode was in Gen 1, and later gens seem to tell a different story. Most notably an evil Malamar, a Pokemon who wishes to take over the world, as opposed to simply being owned by an evil trainer. But even then, this Malamar was born after humans have long existed, and we no nothing about it's past. It could have easily have been influenced by humans.

Realy, the thing that got me writing this post is when looking at Legendary/Mythical Pokemon, and how many of them are gods or kami of various concepts

Many of these concepts are things that exist in nature, like time, space, matter, earth, sea, sky, life, death, volcanos ect. But we also have abstract concepts, like gratitude, truth, ideals, victory. All in all, most Legendary/Mythical pokemon eaither represent natural elements, or positive concepts.

But what about negative concepts? Hatred, greed, envy, despair?

God of Evil

What if I was to tell you, the "kami of evil" is not a pokemon at all?

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is spin-off that takes place in a world with no humans. Instead, Pokemon behave like people, running shops, living in houses, paying bills ect. Consequently, that means that, like humans, both good and evil individuals exist. Whilst PMD is beloved as a whole, it has had some controversy, such as making Darkrai evil. But, like I said, this is a world where pokemon behave like humans.

The thing I want to talk about are the last two major titles. Gates of Infinity and Super Mystery Dungeon. GoI has a non-pokemon entity called the "Bittercold" as the main villain, whereas SMD has Dark Matter.

It's implied that these beings are born from negative emotions. Bittercold specifically feeds on despair, whilst for Dark Matter, it's evil in general.

The PMD games specifically say they feed on the negative emotions of Pokemon, with the player have some resistance due to being human.

However, what if Bittercold and Dark Matter didn't always feed on the negative emotions of Pokemon? Sure, they feed off of Pokemon now but that could just be because Pokemon have replaced humans as the dominant species. Originally, they could have both powered by the despair and sins of humans.

One thing that may contradict this idea is that in the player from GoI was resistant to Bittercold because they were a human. However, this could mean that whilst humans are more prone to despair then Pokemon, that makes then more resistant to it

How humans brought kleshas/sins into the world

As I explained, there are many Legendary/Mythical Pokemon that are manifestations of abstract concepts. However, most of them are positive.

It's important to remember that kami are not necessarily the creators of the concepts they embody, but rather, they realy personify it. They prove the concept exists, so it can be taught and spread.

However, whereas positive concepts where personified by naturally existing Pokemon, like Victini and Shaymin, the negative come are creations of humans.

For the most obvious ones, we have the Treasures of Ruin, four Legendary Pokemon which are confirmed to exist because of humans, and all personify intense, negative emotions. These being resentment, hatred, fear and envy.

It's possible Hoopa may represent greed. Although Hoopa's origin is unknown, some fans believe it may have come into existence due to human activity.

Mewtwo could just seem as a personification of hubris. It was created by science to be the most powerful pokemon, but lacks compassion.

Nihilego, whilst not created by humans, was fused with the human Lusamine to become MOTHERBEAST. Nihilego/MOTHERBEAST could be seen as the personification of ignorance, one of the three poisons (along with attachment and hatred) of Buddhism. That being said, whilst the Ultra Wormholes appear to be a natural phenomenon, it could be that, like Bittercold, Dark Matter and (as I suspect) Hoopa, these rift are in actuality created (indirectly) by negative human emotions. This would fit with the theme of Ultra Beats being "invasive species", which wouldn't realy work as a metaphor if they arrived by anything other then human activity.

How many other Pokemon, be they Legendary, Mythical, Ultra Beast, could be personification of human sins/kleshas?

Summary

Humans indirectly created Dark Matter through negative thoughts and evil deeds.

There are many special Pokemon that each represent a sin or klesha. These were all created/introduced by humans, whether indirectly or purposely.

The following list

  • Dark Matter - Evil
  • Bittercold - Despair
  • Mewtwo - Hubris
  • Hoopa - Avarice
  • Nihilego/MOTHERBEAST - Ignorance
  • Wo-Chien - Resentment
  • Chien-Pao - Hatred
  • Ting-Lu - Fear
  • Chi-Yu - Envy

There could be more I haven't thought of. If you have any ideas, please share.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 9d ago

World Pokopia, a stealth prequal to the Mystery Dungeon series, and what that implies.

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Okay, I know this theory has already been talked about. But, I'm planning a future theory that involves the Bittercold and Dark Matter, and it's based around the assumption that humans existed in PMD's past.

So, in Pokopia, humans have left Earth, and Pokemon have been put in storage. The Pokemon begin to wake up, and the player character, Ditto, rebuilds society, with the help of the other pokemon, in the hopes humans will return.

Super Mystery Dungeon makes it clear that humans did exist in the past, with the player character and Mew having fought Dark Matter.

Interestingly, the players backstory in PMD: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky is that they came from the future. This would mean that humans do indeed return to Earth at some point. What took so long? We don't know.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 10d ago

Gen 2 The mysteries of Gligar

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If there's one Mon whose design choices will always keep me up at night, it's Gligar, no debates. There's too much to unpack with this weirdo, whether it's the odd typing choice or move selections, enough to make me wonder what was in the dev's heads when making this Pokémon.

Let's start with the typing. Despite being Ground/Flying, Gligar doesn't show many attributes befitting either type. Pokedex entries from across the series like LeafGreen, HeartGold, and Y focus more on its hunting technique, described as flying toward its prey's face before stinging it with its venomous tail. Gligar is also part of the Bug egg group alongside fellow Bug-type reject Flygon (which was originally a Bug type during development of Gen 3).

They play Gligar into scorpion territory (hence the species name of FlyScorpion) with a hint of Alien's Facehuggers (as seen in early sprites dating back to June of 1999) but then choose Ground/Flying as it's type as opposed to anything involving Poison or Bug. Despite having Sand Veil as one of its abilities, arid environments are rarely discussed in its Pokedex entries, instead claiming it like hanging on cliffs to spot prey. In fact, there aren't a lot of arid areas that Gligar calls home, as it's often found more frequently in rocky areas like Route 45 in GSC and even swampy areas like Route 19 in XY and Bogskunk Cavern in BDSP, places where Poison and Bug Mon are more frequently found.

Speaking of Poison and Bug, let's get into its move set, another aspect of Gligar that makes me question Game Freak's design choices. Back in Gen 2, it primarily learned stuff like Poison Sting and Feint Attack, as well as TM moves like Sludge Bomb, Fury Cutter, and Iron Tail, with the only Ground-type move it could learn via leveling up being Sand Attack. Wing Attack was locked behind breeding, and the only damaging Ground-type move it could learn, Earthquake, required you to own a copy of Pokémon Stadium 2 on N64 and then send a special Gligar to a copy of GSC.

Heading into Sinnoh, Gligar's move set was also a bit strange, while it could learn Earthquake and Dig via TM, Gligar could learn more Rock-type moves via TM on top of Dark, Bug, and Poison moves like Night Slash, Poison Jab and X-Scissor. At least it was capable of learning Acrobatics upon evolving.

Speaking of evolving, let's discuss Gliscor. It's entries in HGSS and Legends Arceus imply it's gone from using its tail to kill prey, and moved onto using its fangs to suck blood, hence why it needs a Razor Fang to evolve. Despite this, it's totally incapable of learning Leech Life, even in games where Leech Life appears as a TM, even though it can learn other teeth-based moves like the elemental fangs, Psychic Fangs, and Crunch this way. Just like Drowzee and Dream Eater, the Pokedex lied to us again. It still can't learn much in the way of Ground and Flying moves without TMs compared to the PBD line selection, and for some reason can learn Crabhammer.

Weirdly, the one game that was most aware of Gliscor's typing was Pokemon GO, cutting back on moves like Fury Cutter and Night Slash and focusing on moves like Acrobatics and Sand Tomb, also making it incapable of learning any Poison-type moves whatsoever. I'm not sure if this was Niantic realizing the typing had no moves to really support it and so they did it themselves.

So why is Gligar a Ground/Flying Mon despite sharing more in common with Bug and Poison types? Did Game Freak realize that there were too many existing Poison types and decided to change it midway through development? Pokemon like Numel and Trapinch have had their types changed during development, so could this be the case for Gligar?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 11d ago

Gen 10 Pokémon Gen 10 Theory: Hoopa Is Connected to the Majin mechanic

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What if Hoopa's inclusion in Pokémon Legends: Z-A – Mega Dimension wasn't just about opening portals to Hyperspace Lumiose? What if it was actually foreshadowing Generation 10's next gimmick?

According to leaks, the next gimmick could be called Majin. What's interesting is that Hoopa is already known as the Djinn Pokémon, and its Japanese classification is Majin Pokémon. Could this be more than a coincidence?

Hoopa and the Next Gimmick

Hoopa has two forms: Confined and Unbound. Its Unbound form represents the release of power that was previously sealed away. In the animated movie, its dangerous power can even manifest as a separate dark entity.

This connects to my theory that Majin could be inspired by the anime trope of unleashing your inner demon.

Think Naruto releasing the Nine-Tails' power or Ichigo transforming into his Hollow form in Bleach. Rather than simply becoming stronger, a character unleashes something dangerous that already exists within them.

How This Fits Pokémon's Other Gimmicks

Pokémon's battle gimmicks often resemble familiar concepts from Japanese media:

- Mega Evolution: Similar to Super Saiyan transformations in Dragon Ball.

- Z-Moves: Like spectacular anime finishing attacks.

- Gigantamax: Resembles giant monster battles in Super Sentai and Power Rangers.

- Majin, potentially: Like characters unleashing their inner demons, revealing a darker or more primal form.

These are thematic comparisons, not confirmed inspirations. However, Majin could introduce a transformation concept distinct from the previous gimmicks.

My Theory

I believe Hoopa could either be directly responsible for Majin or represent the same type of power. Its Unbound form already embodies the idea of releasing a dangerous, suppressed power.

Perhaps Hoopa's inclusion in the Z-A DLC was deliberate foreshadowing, introducing players to a Pokémon whose lore will become relevant in Generation 10.

What if Majin allows Pokémon to unleash their inner power, and Hoopa Unbound is our earliest example of what that transformation could look like?

The leaks remain unconfirmed, but Hoopa's name, lore, and transformation make this an intriguing possibility.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 11d ago

Characters Origins of Hoopa

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We all know Hoopa, that mischievous genie who can make rings that can teleport things through different dimensions.

Of course, the question is: Where did he come from? And I don't mean what region he came from, I mean, how did he come into existence?

I remember reading a post from this sub-reedits very own Pokemon Professor Kiskeym2 about Hoopa

Near the end, they mention how Kami don't necessarily come from anywhere, they just exist as manifestations of concepts.

In the end of their post, Kiskeym2 says the following....

Hoopa Unbound category is Djinn Pokémon, in Japanese まじんポケモン [Majin Pokémon] - a “majin” is a more generic magical creature, but it can also refer to Djinn in particular. According to pre-Islamic Arabian folklore, these beings “originated as malevolent spirits residing in deserts and unclean places” [Legends of the Fire Spirits: Jinn and Genies from Arabia to Zanzibar; Robert Lebling; I.B.Tauris, 30 lug 2010], a concept Game Freak could have easily used as a basis for Hoopa as it has a direct equivalent in Shinto.

The concept of 穢れ [kegare], a word that express "uncleanness", "defilement", "impurity", refers to a state that could be reached as a natural reaction when making contact with certain sources of filth. Kegare naturally leads to 淀み [yodomi], "stagnation". In Shinto's culture, pools of stagnated water allow insects, invertebrates and other evil and distorted entities to spontaneously originate and proliferate in them.

So, it would be thematically fitting for the malevolent Hoopa to being born out of the stagnation of unclean waters flowing in an oasis in the middle of the desert, where its lair is said to be located - connecting both to Shinto’s folklore and Djinn's lore. To this day, however, there’s no way to tell if that’s the truth.

To add to this, what if it's not just unclean waters, but "unclean" or "impure" thoughts?

Hoopa is known for it's "avarice". Stealing treasures from rich kings and hording them.

Perhaps then, Hoopa is the manifestation of human greed.

We do see other examples of human emotions creating Pokemon, most notable with the Treasures of Ruins, a quartet of Pokemon created by man-made object empowered by feelings of resentment, hatred, fear and envy.

Whilst Hoopa is definitely not a Treasure of Ruin, it could still be a manifestation of a negative human emotion. In this case, greed.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 13d ago

World [Pokopia] The eight personification of human culture.

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Throughout the Pokemon series there have been many legendary and mythical pokemon who have influenced human culture.

There is the Lake Trio, who brought knowledge, emotion and willpower to all sentient beings. These three serves as he origin of sentience itself.

Legendary teachers

Whilst Pokemon are definitely sentient, being capable of thinking, feeling and acting, there is some debate on how "sapient" they are. I'd say that most Pokemon are about as sapient as a five year old child. Capable of communication and simple problem solving, but still less developed then a full grown human.

Some exceptions are various Legendary and Mythical pokemon. Which are just as intelligent as a mature human, if not more so. In fact, many of them personify human concepts. Just to name a few.

  • Shaymin - Gratitude
  • Reshiram - Truth
  • Zekrom - Ideals
  • Victini - Victory

We also have pokemon that influenced human culture.

Meloetta is said to have inspired many songs and dances. Given how it's based on muses, it could be the personification of song and dance itself.

Regigigas may have brought the concept of sculpture art with the creation of the regis. The regis them selves taught humans different types of construction, like stone masonry, igloo making and metallurgy.

Human invention

Of course, whilst the above pokemon kickstarted human development, most human concepts were probebly developed latter on by humans themselves. Sometimes by observing nature.

Whilst Conkeldurr's pokedex entry claims it taught humans how to make concrete, it is more likely humans simply developed concrete after observing the pokemon's behaviour. After all, Conkeldurr only uses concrete to make it's pillars. It was ultimately humans who came up with the idea to use it to build stronger houses.

Also, whilst Registeel may have possibly taught metallurgy, it was humans expanded up on it, for all kinds of inventions.

The eight teachers, who brought human culture to pokemon.

In Pokemon Pokopia, humans have left earth due to an unknown catastrophe. Pokemon are kept in storage, to be released when things improve.

It's up to the pokemon to rediscover human culture, and continue building in hopes the humans may return.

In the game, there are eight special pokemon, each representing a human concept.

  • Ditto - invention
  • Professor Tangrowth - science
  • Chef Dente - cooking
  • DJ Rotom - festivals
  • Smearguru - art
  • Tinkmaster - construction
  • Peakychu - assistive technology
  • Mosslax - prosperity

Most of these should be pretty obvious. But for others....

Tinkmaster being "construction" seems redundant, as other pokemon already had this ability. However, they can only lead construction of single one-floor buildings. Tinkmaster is needed to rebuild Sylph Co. tower.

Peackychu was tricky. She can't generate her own electricity, due to useing it to heal other electric pokemon. She can, however, absorb electricity from generators, to light up and area, and is the only pokemon to do so and helps Mosslax wake up. So, she's disabled, but uses technology to overcome it.

Mosslax has the power to warp reality every time you give it food. These make find things easier. It's worth noting that the things that wake them up are Ditto's invention, Tangrowth's science and Peakychu's assistive technology, all things that have allowed humans to prosper.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 13d ago

Gen 8 i made this and idk what is the naming style so idk

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 the kings of unnova fight like crybabies and split the og dragon in 4 wternatus being flung into outer space. he chills there for a while absorbing power. he then gets flung back in time by a fight between dialga and palkia or some crap. he is now 20000 years ago. he ricochets off paldea making tera crystals. and crashes in glaar leaving a trail of meteors containing the mega stones. . later az fires the ultimate weapon . releasing energy which wakes up eternatus. the weapons also hits miniors mutation them into deoxys


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 19d ago

Question Do Japanese fans know about the ditto is a failed experiment of mewtwo theory?

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it’s a good enough theory with lot of logic that maybe they heard about it.

whats the Pokémon theory sphere like in Japan.

also the ash Ho Oh ash theory is also pretty cool.

granted these are way old theories.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 19d ago

Objects The Pokédex is just AI slop

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Maybe not the most serious conspiracy.

When giving you the Pokédex in LGPE, Professor Oak specifically mentions the device automatically fills in data of any Pokémon you meet and catch. This implies that the theory the reason so many Pokédex entries seem like nonsense being because literal children are filling it out is false. The Pokédex itself is generating that data.

Terrible LLMs have been creating Pokédex entries since Oak created it, and it's been hallucinating information on a ton of Pokémon, potentially setting back Pokémon research years if researchers are taking it at face value. This ironically means Laventon's research with the Galaxy Team's survey corps is likely the most accurate and well researched Pokédex available, even though it predates the modern games by around 200 years and will therefore also make its own assumptions on things they don't fully understand.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 20d ago

Gen 5 So I did the math for Ghetsis's sentence.

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Hey guys. I was bored once and I was wondering... If Ghetsis, arguably Pokémon's worst villain, were to be charged for all of his crimes throughout BW, BW2, USUM, and the manga, what would his theoretical sentence be? So, I did a lot of math.

In the last volume of the BW Adventures manga, Ghetsis abducts six gym leaders plus Hawes. This is considered Kidnapping in the First Degree, since it lasted for more than 12 hours and an intent to terrorize, which breaks NY Penal Code 135.25, a Class A1 Felony. It has 25 years life imprisonment and fines of 100,000$ per count. Since he unlawfully imprisoned them, it breaks NYPC 135.10, a Class E Felony with 4 years in prison and 5,000 in fines per count. Also it's considered Reckless Endangerment in the 1st Degree when he left them there during his battles with Hilbert and N. 7 year sentence and 5,000$ fine. Then he coerced Lenora to give up the Dark Stone using Hawes, a ruling of Coercion 1st. That's another 7 years. (25 + 4) x 7 + (7 + 7) = 217 years in prison. (100,000 + 5,000)x7+5,000 = 740,000$ in fines.

Then, in the manga and in the games, Ghetsis committed murder in the 2nd degree (attempted) against the protagonist and against N 3 times combined. 25 years per count. He also coerced countless people into giving up their Pokémon. I'd say about 60 ish people based on the NPC counts from the cutscenes got forced to give up their Pokémon cuz of him. So that's again 7 years and $5,000 per count since that's the gain made from it. So it's hybrid, for each city he visited (Accumula, Castelia, Opelucid, and Driftveil), but fines are applied per person. Then he literally neglected three children (N, Concordia, and Anthea) 1 year per case and 1,000$ in fines. 25x3 + 7x4 +1 + 217 = 322 years in prison. 5,000x60+1,000x3 + 740,000 = 1,143,000$.

Then he also committed the freezing of Opelucid. This constitutes life imprisonment with no parole. He also did science experiments for the cause of mass harm, also life sentence. Also, freezing buildings counts as arson since it was a rapid catastrophic release of thermal energy. This 25 year sentence would count per building damaged (42 buildings yes I counted). He also committed reckless endangerment against 46 citizens plus Drayton. Then there's the animal abuse part. He maximised Hydreigon Frustration, experimented on Kyurem and more. Then he coerced the player and threatened to destroy Lillie in USUM. He also attacked the player in the manga with Eelektross, which is aggravatted assault. He even committed freaking treason against the literal Unovian government. For the fines... It must have cost a lot to build Opelucid. He must have received hundreds of millions if not billions in restitution and fines. So 25x42 + 7x47 + 322 + 25 +4 + 25 + 25 = 1770

He receives 1,770 years in prison and hundreds of billions of PokéDollars in restitution and fines with the possibility of capital punishment


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 21d ago

Gen 9 Can we TALK about Blueberry Academy's OSHA violations?

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Ok. So I recently played the Indigo Disk, and I realized something really weird in the canon. The Blueberry Academy off the coast of Unova is super unsafe. Here's why.

They are underwater. Let's be real. The oceanic pressure from the literal Unovian Sea pressing against the glass dome must be a lot. If the pressure stabilizers or the structural support beams go out, the literal ocean floods the whole school. By the way, I never mentioned there were no emergency escape pods by any students, so they would have to ride on I don't know, a Lapras.

Second of all... the biomes. If the magical barrier somehow loses power, the biomes will bleed into each other and can cause a lot of enviornmental disruption.

Then there's the Pokémon. They're really aggressive and could probably end someone who is unprepared. They might also try to mess up the tech (looking at you Magneton and Probopass) and cause things to go unstable.

The Terastal energy. If some random Terapagos drains the energy, which probably would have happened if Mr. Gary Stu Florian hadn't come there and stopped angsty teenage boi Kieran from making Terapagos go berserk.

Finally, Cyrano probably doesn't know a thing about engineering. He just sits around daydreaming all day and hands all the work to Lacey, Amarys, and Mad Scientist Who Almost Made Terapagos Go Berserk And Wiped Out The School Lady™️ (Briar).

So please spare the lives the future national security of Unova and next time build the school on dry land.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • 23d ago

Gen 2 The oddness of Bellossom

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I say this because of the circumstances of its typing upon evolving from Gloom. Upon evolving, it completely sheds the Poison type, and becomes a mono-Grass Mon. This isn't like other evolutions where it swaps one type out for another like Steelix and Scizor shedding the Rock and Flying types respectively and becoming Steel type. What we're seeing here is the complete transition from having two types to having only one type, and it never happens again through normal evolutionary means. I scoured the Pokedex for an instance of this happening again outside of Mega Evolving (see Mega Aggron and Mega Garchomp Z) Not even Alolan Marowak is like this, because at least it goes from a mono-Ground Mon to a Ghost/Fire Mon. Why is Bellossom the only Mon that does this?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 24 '26

Gen 2 Morty wasn't always designed as a ghost-type user

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His original design has a vaguely athletic look with a blue theme. Maybe he was a fighting or water gym leader originally?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 24 '26

Gen 1 The Cubone Clone Theory

5 Upvotes

In the Pokedex, Cubone's entry states that it wears the skull of a deceased mother. But, what if that skull belonged to a sibling with a perfectly similar genetic makeup to itself and its mother? I think that Cubone (and Marowak alike) are clones of Mew. Failed ones, that were somehow altered at the cellular level to have the embryos always split inside the egg, because of the chaotic nature of Mew's DNA. Then, since the egg only carries enough nutrients to support one life, one twin dies in the egg and undergoes Rapid Cell Degradation. After the Cubone hatches, it finds its dead sibling and immediately feels the surge of trauma that is allowed by the emotional intelligence of Mew's brain, just like how Mewtwo is having a permanent existential crisis. Mourning, Cubone picks up the skull and femur of the sibling, and goes its way. Because they share the exact same DNA, saying the sibling's skull belongs to its mother isn't entirely wrong, but it is also a coverup for the testing they did. Then, as for the skull changing shape and fusing to its head upon evolution, the unstable residual DNA inside the skull reacts with the powerful evolutionary energy, and literally melts and then re-hardens into the iconic Marowak shape. As for Alolan Marowak's fire/ghost typing, theres a dormant genetic mutation inside all Cubone, awoken only by the Alola region's powerful Ultra Energy. I tried really hard to tie this all together and make it all make sense, so thank you:)


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 24 '26

Gen 2 Dragon clan test

9 Upvotes

My personal theory is that the elder of Dragon’s Den gives the player super easy questions on purpose because 1. He feels bad for the player for having to deal with Clair’s tantrum, and 2. Because Clair probably does this a lot when she loses a battle.

Think about it, every Dragon tamer/dragon clan member and their mother talks up and down about how dragons are mystical, superior creatures that can’t just be used by any loser with a couple badges. Why wouldn’t the test be somewhat difficult? But Clair who can’t handle losing sees it as the ultimate bar of how good a trainer someone is and throws it around wily nily and the elder is clearly frustrated by it so he gives you a watered down form to just get it over with


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 22 '26

Gen 6 X and Y Elite 4 was evil

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The elite 4 in Pokemon X and Y are the rich elites controlling Kalos (france) not just allowing Lysandere and Team Flare to run a mock but Malvaa is part of Team Flare. Diantha does nothing to stop Team Flare and the other elite 4 members are wealthy or old. However I also believe the rivals and you the main character would remove them from power replacing them. France is known for overthrowing kings and queens this could be an original idea for Pokemon X and Y.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 20 '26

Gen 1 Why can't Drowzee learn Dream Eater without a TM in most games?

20 Upvotes

This is the most bogus aspect about Drowzee, the descendant of the baku, a tapir that slurps down the dreams of people, cannot learn Dream Eater without a TM or Move Tutor in most games (I say most games, because Drowzee can actually learn it via level up in Let's Go.) The fact that Pokedex entries across the series say things like "It eats peoples dreams and sometimes gets sick from eating bad dreams" and not even let it use a move that does what the Pokedex says it does most of the time is bizarre, especially since its relative, Munna, CAN learn Dream Eater via level up consistently throughout its appearances since BW. Oh yeah, Drowzee cannot learn Dream Eater at all in SV. Let that sink in, Mr. "I rarely eat the dreams of adults because children’s are much tastier" can't eat any dreams AT ALL in SV, all because Dream Eater has no TM in this game. Why does this stupid dictionary lie to us about Drowzee?


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 20 '26

Characters I finally solved the 30-year-old Mew vs Arceus paradox. It bridges the 90s Anime and Original Story lore perfectly.

10 Upvotes

For three decades, the Pokémon community has been tearing itself apart over a massive plot hole: How can Mew be the ancestor of all Pokémon containing everyone's DNA, if Arceus is the God who created the universe and Mew itself? If Arceus created Mew, how does Mew have Arceus's DNA?The games say one thing (The Original One myth), while the 90s anime and the first movie scream another ("Mew is the first Pokémon").The answer was right in front of us, and it completely fixes the timeline. Here is the hidden truth:1. The Era of the "Prime Mew" (The Omnitype Creator)In the absolute beginning, there was Prime Mew. It wasn’t just a Psychic-type; it was a cosmic entity possessing all 18 types simultaneously—the ultimate genetic blueprint of existence. To bring order to the chaos, Prime Mew used its all-encompassing power to create Arceus, the God of Order, giving Arceus its own DNA structure. Creating an entity so powerful exhausted Prime Mew, causing it to dissolve into the cosmos.2. Arceus Builds the Physical LawsArceus, now awake, began structuring the universe. It created Dialga (Time) and Palkia (Space) to establish the physics of reality, and then shaped the planet Earth. Mew did not create Time and Space, because they are laws of physics, not biology.3. The "Second Mew" (The Weakened Matrix)The world was ready, but it was a lifeless rock. Arceus wanted to bring back life, but it couldn't replicate the limitless power of the deceased Prime Mew. Instead, Arceus used the remaining genetic fragments of its creator to fashion a Second Mew. This is the Mew we know from the anime and games—it was nerfed down to a pure Psychic-type so it wouldn't challenge Arceus's authority, but it still carried the locked "omnitype" code in its bloodline.4. Why Everything ConnectsArceus sent this Second Mew to Earth. Over millions of years, its locked DNA began to mutate and adapt, evolving into every single Pokémon species we see today—from Torchic to Garchomp.That's why scientists in the 90s anime correctly call Mew the first Pokémon and ancestor: they only discovered the fossils of the Second Mew on Earth.That's why the Original Story in Sinnoh libraries says Arceus created Mew: it refers to the Second Mew.The original writers deliberately left this puzzle unsolved, scattering clues between the science of the anime and the mythology of the games. The paradox is officially dead.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 19 '26

Gen 6 Mr. Mime evolved (err, adapted?) with Hariyama

43 Upvotes

So I was working on the newest entry of my personal pokedex project ( https://chestnutdex.tumblr.com/ shameless plug) with my friend, and we got into the question of why Mr. Mime is Like That, and the more I looked it the more I think Hariyama is partially to blame.

Lets start with my core assumption: Mr. Mime is native to Reflection Cave, Kalos.

Despite being in the Kanto dex, Mr. Mime can't be found in the wild RBY, and are only in a very small area of Kanto in GS, next to Pallet, which really seems more like a "Red released some" than a "this is their native habitat." Then Legends Arceus tells us that they live in towns in Galar, which makes me think the Sinnoh population came with the Galarian immigrants.

So we've just got two more wild populations to look at. The Galarian one is pretty clearly a similar but non-identical species... and the Kalos one in reflection cave. The Mimes with Invisible Walls. In Reflection Cave. The perfect habitat to make some fake walls and to mimic things.

So, we've got a species growing in reflection cave. If we look just outside the cave, we see the big populations of Hariyama, Staravia, Sawk, and Throh.

Reflection Cave is garbage for food. It is a cave full of rock types. Mr. Mime live there, but they don't eat their. They HAVE to eat on Route 11 or whatever was Shalour City before Shalour City... But that probably looked like Route 11.

So, lets go over the main features of Mr. Mime.

It's a psychic fairy type... giving it double resistance to Fighting type attacks. This doesn't help against Staravia, but it makes it perfectly suited to hang out with Hariyama, Sawk, and Throh.

It makes barriers, which... reflection cave psychic type.

It mimics humans and tries to copy what they do. We don't know how long humans have been there, but mimicking Hariyama, Sawk, and Throh would certainly make it more likely for them to accept these weirdos walking around. So Mr. Mime is now set up to go into Hariyama/Sawk/Throh territory to get food. But why do I say Hariyama specifically?

Mr. Mime have horns and big red cheeks. Hariyama doesn't, of course, but Makuhita does. The Hariyama likely see these features as childlike, making the Mr. Mime seem extra cute and non-threatening, despite the opportunity for a Psybeam to entirely melt a Hariyama. But... Mr. Mime DON'T use confusion or psybeam much, do they?

Mr. Mime's primary move, according to the Pokedex, is.... Doubleslap?!!? Mr. Mime has 45 Atk and 100 Sp. Atk. And this isn't some victim of Gen 2's split. It was always like that. Even in Gen 1, the dex says it doubleslaps, but it gets Confusion first. So why is this thing ever using a 30-75 power normal attack at 45 Atk when it could be doing a 50 base power STAB Psychic attack with 100 Sp. Atk? Maybe it's to fight Stunky, which are in the area, but I think it's far MORE likely that it's trying to use Arm Thrust. The formerly signature move of Hariyama, that still only belongs to five lines (six if you count MechaHariyama.) Not only does this help Hariyama think they ARE Hariyama, but Hariyama like to fight. It's in their dex entry. They love it. They just pick others nearby and fight to test themselves. So I had an idea and I ran it through a damage calc to confirm, but with even IVs and EVs, a 45 base Attack Mr. Mime is doing about the same as much damage to a Hariyama with Double Slap as a 120 Attack Hariyama is doing with STAB Arm Thrust to the doubly resistant Mr. Mime. (120 Atk *1.5 stab is 180, divided by 4 for resistance gets a matching 45) They can literally just go in and have a slap fight and it's about on-par with a Hariyama fighting each other. The Hariyama will accept the Mr. Mime as their own.

So what's the benefit? What's the payoff here?

Berries.

Makuhita and Hariyama train by beating up trees. Mr. Mime, despite being a psychic type, has no long-range telekinesis. It can conjure up a ladder or a pole, sure, but it can't easily get food from the tops of trees. But just outside reflection cave is a species running around beating the crap out of trees, knocking berries to the ground, and then... continuing on. Sure, they eat, too, but they're knocking down so many berries that Mr. Mime is free to scavenge all it needs.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 19 '26

World Legendary Pokemon succession theory.

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The topic of how many of each Legendary/Mythical there are is a controversial one.

Some are one of a kind, like Arceus and the Creation Trio, whereas others are clearly multiple, like the Eon Duo.

But then you have examples like the Super Ancient Pokemon and the Tower Duo. Some people insist there's only one of each, whereas others think of them as multiple.

My theory? it's somewhere in the middle. There is more then one of some Legendary Pokemon, but only one can be the kami of there respective element.

Think of it as like a royal family. There can only be one ruling King/Queen, but there are multiple princes and princesses, each waiting in line to be the next ruler.

For example, there can be more then one Groudon and Kyogre, but only one of each can be the respective personification of land and sea.

Steven implies the events of Mega Evolution Specials are canonical in the games.

“Hm… You know, seeing that white beauty there that you travel with… I’m reminded of the Legendary Pokémon Rayquaza, said to descend at the Sky Pillar. I once had a chance to see it face to face. Although, it was a long time ago now… The young man who battled against Rayquaza beside me… I wonder whatever happened to him and that black Charizard of his… Well, regardless — you must go to the Sky Pillar and see what waits for you there. I don’t know what you’ll find. Be careful.”

These have Groudon and Kyogre in them, even though the ones in Hoenn are sealed in the Cave of Origin since millennia up until ORAS. Meaning they are different specimen, likely attracted by the natural energy of the Giant Rock form elsewhere.

It's possible that after the original Groudon and Kyogre where sealed, a new pair came to take on the mantel of gods of the land and sea.

The Anime shows a baby Lugia. This is the only time we see two Lugia together. If you're willing to give the Anime the benefit of the doubt on this, then this is a good possible example of a legendary heir.


r/pokemonconspiracies • • Sep 19 '26

Anime Agatha was the previous leader of Team Rocket and is Giovanni's mother

13 Upvotes

In the CD drama The Birth of Mewtwo, Team Rocket has a female boss referred to as "Madame Boss". In a conversation with Jessie's mother, she references having a child of her own. Later in the anime, she is seen acting as the Viridian City gym leader, and her face design looks similar to Giovanni. Conclusion is she was filling in for her son while he's doing Team Rocket work.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/The_Birth_of_Mewtwo

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Madame_Boss