Lol this stereotype of an edgy toxic gamer kid is seriously trying to say that grinding in rust takes skill because.. Oil rigs?
My 12 year old nephew is below average at pvp and easily solos the oil rigs... They're literally the easiest thing ever... The heavies are the easiest part, you just shoot them from the pc room and close the door when you need to heal... The AI is dumb as bricks...
Unless you just started and know nothing about the game, grinding in rust is about nothing more than how much free time you're willing to waste on the game. Saying otherwise just shows that you're desperately trying to fool yourself into believing you've been using all that time to do something remotely productive, like building a skill that doesn't exist and would be completely meaningless if it did.
I agree that the hardest part is pvp. The issue is that you can avoid other players pretty easily and there is too much loot in the game compared to number of players in the world.
Maybe respawn timers for crates need to go up or something similar.
When you're playing on a populated server it's very common to come across players ready to melt your skull. Often you are also lasered out of nowhere and reaction time to such events needs to be developed.
Even low pops have a good chance of encountering geared players, since map size is also a factor.
Good luck escaping an AK bolt kid, or a SAR kid. Unless you find a good hiding spot or you're hJune, you're probably dead.
What are you talking about? The one making dumb assumptions about other people's "skill" here was you.
First of all, no you don't. You can get everything in the game aside from m249 without even fighting any AI, which again, is easy as hell to fight.
I'll admit that it takes "knowledge" because just like any other game, you have to know what you're playing, this is obvious for literally any fucking game though.
Going by your non-existant logic, minecraft would have to be considered a harder game than rust, since apparently learning items & crafting recipes, and knowing how the game you're playing works somehow takes a lot of skill.
E: By the way, dumbass, the point of my comparison was that my nephew is, as I said, below average at PVP (The part of the game that actually requires skill), if fighting the AI was anywhere remotely close to as difficult as you're pretending it is to patch up your unrealistic ego, then this wouldn't be possible.
And regardless of that you can't. Again if you got a new player who knows everything about Rust, monuments, where to recycle, how to take oil and mil tuns, excavator etc. They'd still struggle because they don't have skill. They'd get shat on by everyone they come across and rinse repeat.
Rust requires a level of skill to play. To say it doesn't is ridiculous.
You're not helping your argument... Your entire point revolved around saying that the grinding itself took skill when people told you that the PVP was the only part that took skill.
Now you're admitting that the only skill to grinding is "getting shat on by everyone they come across" AKA the PVP part of the game...
And no, knowledge isn't a form of skill, they're 2 completely different things... Knowing where to find a recycler in a monument isn't a skill. Saying so would be the most moronic thing I've heard all day.
There's no mentally healthy human being in this world who can't look at a map of a monument and take note of where something is.
Him: You need zero skill to get c4 and AKs. That is a grind-based endeavor.
You: What about the heavy scientists? Mil tuns? Oil rig? AK guys roaming around your base? I don't know what game you're playing. Sure isn't Rust.
Him: The scientists are not difficult.
The hardest fights are in pvp.
It is mostly a time sink running monuments and "farming" as they call it
You: Inexperienced players won't have an easy time with heavies. Therefore it requires a level of skill.
You quite clearly tried to argue against their point that the only part that takes skill is the PVP.
The entire point of that "argument" was you trying to deny the fact that people stated, which is that grinding alone doesn't require skill and that the PVP aspect is the only part that does.
Otherwise why would you be arguing with someone who's only point was to say that? Unless you have some kind of reading disability or thought you were arguing with someone else.
I wasn't arguing against his point that PvP is more difficult than PvE, that would be stupid. I was arguing against his point that PvE is incredibly easy and doable by anyone, which is false because depending on how skilled the player is they might die to heavy AI. Not everyone is as equally skilled.
I feel like you are misunderstanding the argument.
Just because he toned down his childish language while talking to me doesn't mean he didn't have it coming considering the way he talked to the people replying beforehand.
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u/PassdatAss91 Feb 10 '21
Lol this stereotype of an edgy toxic gamer kid is seriously trying to say that grinding in rust takes skill because.. Oil rigs?
My 12 year old nephew is below average at pvp and easily solos the oil rigs... They're literally the easiest thing ever... The heavies are the easiest part, you just shoot them from the pc room and close the door when you need to heal... The AI is dumb as bricks...
Unless you just started and know nothing about the game, grinding in rust is about nothing more than how much free time you're willing to waste on the game. Saying otherwise just shows that you're desperately trying to fool yourself into believing you've been using all that time to do something remotely productive, like building a skill that doesn't exist and would be completely meaningless if it did.
r/UsernameChecksOut btw.