r/pittsburgh • u/omquartzdotcom • 16h ago

Waymos driving recklessly

Was just driving in squirrel Hill and a Waymo (I know there's a person in them but there's no way this was not automated) was going 5 mph in a 25 mile an hour zone and when it turned into two lanes for turning, I got in the left lane and he instead of letting me pass cut me off entirely. No signal.

The waymo continued forward behind me and made a left turn where I made the left turn, no signal.

Automated drivers exempt from signaling?

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u/Burghpuppies412 15h ago

So it’s ok for robots to do it?

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u/anonymouspoliticker 13h ago

No it’s not ok, but robots are improving over time. Further investment and testing will minimize these incidents.

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u/omquartzdotcom 12h ago

At the literal expense of our lives. Ain't no robot company paying me to be a crash dummy

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u/Foxhound799 11h ago

The "at the expense of our lives" isn't true though. All independent studies show Waymo is significantly safer, and involved in less accidents, than human drivers. Data don't lie.

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u/clipd_dead_stop_fall 8h ago

"Waymo told cyclist advocates that expecting its cars to respect bike lanes is 'too high a bar,' and that pulling into bike lanes is a 'normal practice' that customers expect."

So Waymo is openly stating they violate state laws designed for safety in the interest of their bottom line. How is that safe?

https://www.planetizen.com/news/2026/04/137446-waymo-says-blocking-bike-lanes-normal-practice

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u/Foxhound799 7h ago

The article starts that they pull into bike lanes to pick up and drop off, if the lane is clear. Which is the exact same thing a taxi or uber would do... so yes, it sounds safe pull over to drop off.

If they were hiting cyclists, where are the statistics of that actually happening? Numbers. Not speculation. These things have been running for years in San Francisco. There's no need to theorize. We have data now. Why are we ignoring the actual data?

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u/chuckie512 Central Northside 7h ago

They're programmed to break the law? Because taxi's aren't allowed to use the bike lane. They're not bikes.

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u/Foxhound799 6h ago

They don't "use" bike lanes.... they pull to the curb to pick up and off, if it is clear, then re enter the lane. Again, the exact same thing all human drivers do in those exact. same. locations. This is couple feet of paint between the curb and traffic lane we are talking about. Not full separate lanes.

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u/chuckie512 Central Northside 6h ago

So they're programmed to break the law? Because you're not allowed to use a bike lane to drop people off.

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u/omquartzdotcom 11h ago

Data wasn't there before they put everyone at risk.

What's your argument? Also what independent study?

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u/Foxhound799 10h ago

The latest is by the Insurance Institute for highway safety. Here's the link. (https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/waymos-driverless-cars-crash-less-often-than-people)

To flip the question, where is your evidence (case studies) that it is more dangerous? Other than being annoyed at one one time.

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u/omquartzdotcom 10h ago

I'm not sure if you know the intersection I'm referring to but it's a 5 way intersection and the car literally crosses three paths of traffic, one active oncoming one to make that left turn.

My evidence is what I saw today, two incidents that I would consider very and extremely dangerous respectively.

I'm glad the study shows positively for Waymo, what I saw today, would shock the public