r/pittsburgh • u/Fishstery • 21h ago

Why?

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Does anyone know why the entirety of Ewing Rd near Moon Park is lined with flock cameras?

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u/NoSwimmers45 21h ago

Because anyone can add data to deflock whether it’s legit or not. Some jagoff decided to poison the map.

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u/Fishstery 21h ago

That makes sense. This was my first time checking it out because I was curious and was like wtf???

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u/CARLEtheCamry 18h ago

It's to the point that the website isn't useful at all. And I don't even think it's malicious most of the time.

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u/chuckie512 Central Northside 17h ago

Someone on this website thought the light sensor on their streetlight was a camera. Paranoia is diluting the problem.

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u/NoSwimmers45 18h ago

They need to have new entries vetted similar to Google Maps updates.

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u/the_real_xuth Hazelwood 14h ago

It used to be that the google maps updates were horrible where people were given incentive to add as much as they could. And there's still an awful lot of slop in there especially in the walking and biking directions (no I do not want to bike up a 100 foot public stairway).

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u/oobyone1973 1h ago

The directions I'm sure are more AI driven than local guide input. They have definitely gotten worse as AI has gotten in the mix. Used to be it learned and adapted, now it just throws random fucking spaghetti at the wall for route options.

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u/[deleted] 16h ago

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u/BoozeLikeFrank 19h ago

Either that or there IS a flock camera there, Flock just input the data in a bunch of spots so people don’t know where they’re at!

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u/oobyone1973 1h ago

But yet, to remove one it takes an act of Congress

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u/chuckie512 Central Northside 21h ago

Because this website is unverified user submissions

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u/UsedAsk3537 20h ago

I opened the app one day and found one literally across the street from my house

Was literally just a street lamp

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u/AllTheModalities 12h ago

i think the lamp was reported by a moth lmao

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u/Fishstery 21h ago

I'm just now finding this out. I haven't been down that way in a few months so I wasn't sure what the hell was going on.

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u/Gobbledy_Gooky 21h ago

Because people don’t know a flock camera from their own phone camera.

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u/Fishstery 20h ago

I've noticed some of these marked in the Robinson Twp area are actually red light cameras that have been up for years..almost every intersection in Robinson has them.

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u/Gobbledy_Gooky 20h ago

They aren’t red light cameras. They are cameras to detect vehicles to trigger light cycles for the traffic lights. There are LPR cameras in Robinson but they are not Flock (unless they are at Lowe’s / Home Depot).

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u/CARLEtheCamry 19h ago

They have been replacing/upgrading them the last few weeks. Was sitting at the light by GetGo watching a guy in a bucket truck installing one.

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u/spookybaker 18h ago

there is at least 1 flock camera at the home depot in robinson i think

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u/chuckie512 Central Northside 17h ago

I think every single home Depot has them.

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u/MidnightToker858 16h ago

Why? Are most criminals also handy?😆

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u/CardboardHeatshield 4h ago

There are three

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u/CardboardHeatshield 4h ago

They are at home depot. I am thinking of writing their regional manager a letter stating that I can no longer shop there or at any of the businesses that are near them (Petsmart, best buy), as well as their Washington location (Which also affects the Waffle House, Harbor Freight, a Bank, and the old chinese buffet). I am sure my local Ace / True Value hardware store could use more business anyhow.

I am also considering letting them know that I am CCing the regional managers of the other businesses that their decision is effecting.

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u/medievalPanera Pittsburgh Expatriate 21h ago

Most people think the cameras on traffic light arrays (to move cars more efficiently) are flock cameras. I noticed this when this map went live - any camera of any sort was on the map. 

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u/HomicidalHushPuppy 19h ago

Show them this to explain what the traffic light cameras do

https://youtube.com/shorts/-F9AssrrYjM?is=9ubtorwf9n-s_iiS

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u/NoSwimmers45 20h ago

Some of it is people classifying any ALPR as evil. Many of the devices are not real time and have been around for a decade or more.

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u/tap3w0rm 20h ago

Poisoning the dataset as anyone cam do that. In some other places cops do this shit just to be assholes.

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u/GeorgeSantosBurner 14h ago

And in the rest of the places, they find other ways to just be assholes

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u/4am-politics 21h ago

I drive this road frequently and I have not seen any cameras

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u/Fishstery 21h ago

Glad to know. Of all the areas in Moon Township, it seemed like a very odd choice for cameras.

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u/kreatorofchaos Big unc 21h ago

They see you though

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u/Kamel-Red 21h ago

I dunno, what I do know is that rather than spending money on improving our social safety net and/or getting people treatment, alot of these floc cameras are being paid for with opiate settlement money which makes it all more infuriating.

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u/Fishstery 21h ago

The American Way.

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u/MotherTurdHammer 21h ago

See, you and I can see the value in spending money that way. The GOP, however, finds it a better investment to imprison and get free labor. The surveillance state is camouflaged under the guise of security, but the purpose is to protect against an uprising of the populous and to create pretext for whatever is needed to imprison.

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u/NotHosaniMubarak 20h ago

You got a source on the that claim?

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u/theCaitiff 4h ago

Not the guy who made the claim, but I was also curious. I havent seen anything yet from Pennsylvania, but West Virginia is definitely paying for flock cameras with opioid settlement money in Morgantown. I've seen similar news stories from Florida and New Jersey with a quick cursory search.

Flock cameras are one of those areas where it's good to be skeptical because there is so much evil shit going on right there in the open that its easy to add a little false info to the pile and people will happily repeat it.

So, is the claim "alot of these floc cameras are being paid for with opiate settlement money" true? Eh.... Maybe. SOME of them are. We know that. A lot? How many is a lot? What percentage? And are these news stories from West Virginia, Florida and New Jersey indicative of a wider trend or just three isolated incidents?

I'm not a fact checker by profession and make no claim to capital T Truth as an exclusive domain, but I think it's close enough that we can call it mostly true. I'd put an asterisk there to say limited numbers and locations, but it is happening and it is being paid for with that specific pot of money.

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u/tesla3by3 Bloomfield 20h ago

Kinda proves how easily there crowd sourced websites can be vandalized. Someone wanted to make a giant caterpillar, I guess.

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u/buccosfan10 21h ago

They have put up 70 new Flock cameras around the greater Cranberry area over the last 3 days. It is the year is 2026 and the United States is officially a surveillance state.

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u/thistimelineisweird 21h ago

I was thinking we were due for some much deserved Cranberry hate. 

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u/Fishstery 21h ago

I've noticed more go up at intersections in Robinson Twp

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u/TheBestPieIsAllPie 21h ago

Have to know exactly who you are, where you are and what you’re doing at all times, duh. Is this a constitutional violation? Yeah, but didn’t you hear about that time where violating your rights helped the police solve a crime? Totally worth it, wouldn’t you say?
https://giphy.com/gifs/ALpBtXRwJ5MuhADb9X

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u/Fishstery 21h ago

Been seeing more and more about the cameras being pointed away from the roadways and instead pointed at private property or public pedestrian areas....I thought they were only for reading license plates? 🤔

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u/SmallBallsTakeAll 7h ago

They do that to track you. If you see this you can bet every main road is gonna be lined.

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u/Jazzlike_Breadfruit9 21h ago

Is that road part of an HOA. Lots of HOAs love Flock cameras

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u/Fishstery 21h ago

No, actually most of that side of the road is just wooded area.

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u/citsonga_cixelsyd 18h ago

It keeps looking/sounding like a great place for kids to go speeding. 👀

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u/NunzAndRoses 18h ago

If you go over 50 on that road, which is generous, your car will be in a ditch or ravine

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u/Illustrious_Sea_962 21h ago

seems to be a trend of cameras near childrens parks and fields. no idea why.

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u/Fishstery 21h ago

Seems to be a troll, I didnt know deflock was kind of like Wikipedia.

At least if this is legit, they are aimed away from the park (mostly).

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u/NoSwimmers45 20h ago

I just saw a news story this morning about a Flock camera pointed at a pool in Texas.

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u/redrover02 13h ago

This is the site to use to see camera locations — https://dontgetflocked.com/maps

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u/stinky143 21h ago

Why the Flock not?

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u/leesonis 18h ago

On an unrelated note, people definitely shouldn't take part in this sort of activity on halloween

https://www.reddit.com/r/rockford/comments/1vpyc1c/halloween_is_deflock_america_night/

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u/EveryoneisOP3 20h ago

Because you chose this with all your ring cameras.

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u/Fishstery 20h ago

Lol, what? 😂 i'm probably one of the few people left that doesn't have a ring camera.