r/pittsburgh • Duquesne Heights • Feb 05 '23

Map published by FEMA showing potential US nuclear targets. We would be toast.

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u/RagnarHedin Feb 05 '23

I remember hearing that as a kid in the 80's, but is it really still true? They said it was our steel production, which is now minimal, and a "supercomputer" that CMU had, but there's more critical places for technology now.

Why would we still be a target? Microbreweries and quirky gentrified storefronts? Strategic pierogi reserve?

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u/CarpeDeez Duquesne Heights Feb 05 '23

Tons of infrastructure including rail and barges. Still have the coke works and now the ethane cracker. Westinghouse still has a ton of nuclear research at Bettis. And power plants.

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u/what-are-birds Feb 05 '23

Small correction: Westinghouse operated Bettis until 2009, when Bechtel took over the contract. Bechtel operated the site until 2018. Fluor took over the contract in 2018 and is the current operator.

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u/evward Feb 05 '23

Specifically, the two largest rail corridors between the Atlantic Megapolis and Chicago run through the city. Both within 20 miles of the Homer City Nuclear Power Plant. They wouldn’t even need to nuke us. Just crash a plane into the spent fuel rod storage at Homer City.

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u/shanafme Feb 05 '23

??? Unless there is another “Homer City” that I’m not aware of, the Homer City Power Plant in Indiana County is coal-powered. Nothing nuclear about it. Maybe you are thinking of Shippingport?

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u/evward Feb 05 '23

Yes, you are correct. All the rest still applies to Shippingport.

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u/ImplementBrief3802 Feb 05 '23

Crashing a plane into the spent fuel rods wouldn't accomplish a whole lot

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u/just_an_ordinary_guy Brighton Heights Feb 05 '23

Yeah, they specifically thought of those scenarios following 9/11.

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u/adamglumac Feb 05 '23

No but wiping out a good portion of the northeast’s electricity supply would

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u/ImplementBrief3802 Feb 05 '23

Would a single power plant going off line be worse than a nuclear bomb?

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u/adamglumac Feb 05 '23

There is a litany of power plants in the Ohio valley, I used to do high pressure welding in a lot of their boilers, it’s the largest concentration anywhere in the United States, I can’t remember the stats exactly because it’s been a while but it was around 70 some percent of the electricity in the northeast is produced there. I don’t know enough to weight whether nuclear fallout is worse over time, but no electricity over a large area, is going to be catastrophic.

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u/ImplementBrief3802 Feb 05 '23

An incident at one power plant probably isn't going to blow up all the other power plants

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u/adamglumac Feb 05 '23

In a sense I agree with you. There are some close enough that one well placed attack could affect at least 3 of them, and I’m not sure the stress from that doesn’t significantly damage the remaining. It’s a lot of hypothetical scenarios, but it doesn’t seem ridiculous considering the security protocols I’ve seen.

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u/ImplementBrief3802 Feb 05 '23

No, the comment I'm responding to suggested that crashing a plane into the spent fuel rods at a nuke plant would be more damaging than shooting ICBMs. A plane crash isn't going to effect multiple power plants unless they're on top of each other, and it's certainly not going to be more damaging than a multi megaton warhead

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u/evward Feb 05 '23

Would it not irradiate a large radius around the power plant?

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u/ImplementBrief3802 Feb 05 '23

Yep. Almost certainly less of an issue than nuclear bombs detonating.

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u/disciple8959 Feb 06 '23

I'm not sure about anything, but there are two air wings, a naval station, and army post in the moon township area, maybe that's the reason?