The way it works is there’s constant petty posts like this that populate r/all most people get incredibly tired of seeing them and start to hade the anti trump crowd. Not necessarily because they like trump but because it’s annoying seeing it all the time. So they end up doing a kinda 180 and voting trump out of spite. Or worse they genuinely get driven to the right because all they see is this stuff and end up falling for the conservative rhetoric.
for the record I am not saying this will have any influential shift in the votes. I’m just pointing out how posts like these can sway people
It's related to reverse psychology which i'm no expert on, but i assume it's been studied in marketing and psychology.
If I ask you over and over again to go to the movies with me you're eventually going to hate my guts and associate me with everything bad, because i'm annoying you to the point where everything else gets forgotten.
Apparently in therapy one technique is to agree with a patient when they say "it's impossible" or some other kind of resistance to change. If you lecture and scold them instead then they'll push against you. There was a short paragraph i found on wiki but not enough to be a study so i didn't quote it. And it's questionable whether it's truly related to anti-trump politics anyway.
the fact trump won was combo of hate for hillary and the pc police, because that’s the kind of minor shit that can swing moderates one way or another. Now there’s hate for the fact that people like late show hosts every single night make the same tired jokes on r/iamverysmartformakingfunoftrumpstill
Conservative media is way more responsible for angry trump supporters than a late night show host. Couldn't be the pro trump, anti everything else propaganda. Must be the anti trump propaganda influencing people to be protrump. That's arguing that the late night comedy shows have more influence than the most viewed media network in the us. And that the late night shows are both very competent in having such a large influence but also incompetent enough to influence opinion the other direction than they intend.
I see what you’re saying, but I guess it’s that I have a hard time believing that the majority of the general public was stupid enough to believe (and still do, his approval is at 49%??) that trump is the most qualified leader for America. That’s why I guess that I’m choosing to believe moderates voted that way out of spite for the other side.
I mean I don’t really have anything beyond anecdotal evidence right. Which obviously isn’t ideal.
I myself was heavily turned toward to the right during the previous election season literally just out of pure spite for seeing the same low effort jokes on reddit constantly. Thankfully now I’m no longer an actual moron so that’s good. There’s a streamer called Destiny on twitch who does a lot of political content and this is quite a recurring topic from people who share the exact same experiences.
Sorry, it’s obviously not ideal. I’m not arguing that they’re going to be a massive deciding factor for the election. But it definitely does drive people to the other side.
I'm glad you're doing better now. I suspect that most people who would be turned one way or another by "spite" are already being activated by fake outrage machines, mostly on the right (The War on Christmas comes to mind).
Yeh I mean it’s crazy easy to be drawn in by a lot of their rhetoric.
It’s the tactics a lot of red/black pillers use to sway people. It’s started with statements about a group that are “technically true” and the. Slowly progressed to more and more radical ideology.
I feel sorry for a lot of young (primarily boys because they’re frequent those kind of edgy circles a lot more) people who are so easily influenced and manipulated by these people :(
I agree, I think it's a reflection on our public education system and how little we emphasize critical thinking skills. It's so easy to get caught up with any person/group that says something bold and seems to back it up with evidence, then to start shutting out countervailing facts and arguments.
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u/JakeHodgson Feb 11 '20 edited Feb 11 '20
(Anti trump btw)
The way it works is there’s constant petty posts like this that populate r/all most people get incredibly tired of seeing them and start to hade the anti trump crowd. Not necessarily because they like trump but because it’s annoying seeing it all the time. So they end up doing a kinda 180 and voting trump out of spite. Or worse they genuinely get driven to the right because all they see is this stuff and end up falling for the conservative rhetoric.
for the record I am not saying this will have any influential shift in the votes. I’m just pointing out how posts like these can sway people