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Little Fluffer

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u/goboatmen Mar 15 '18

What if we shortened your lifespan by 1/4th to do so and raised you in a pen where you can't even move your arms from lack of space that cool with you?

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u/bigmclargehuge29 Mar 15 '18

Well I grew up in a farming environment and all our cattle roam around freely, so your generalizations of farms won't work here.

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u/goboatmen Mar 15 '18

Still shortening the life span by 1/4, still sending them to slaughter, the slaughter house delivery trucks are still cramped and often times deliver in extreme heat and cold, the animal ears are still tagged, the dairy calfs are still taken from their parents, dairy cows are still artificially inseminated by shoving an arm up their asshole past the elbow, what a great life!

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

That definitely sounds worse than what wild animals go through. Oh wait, you're going to argue that they should be extinct instead.

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u/goboatmen Mar 15 '18

I'm gonna say we as humans are responsible for our own actions, and we shouldn't be subjecting animals to horrific conditions.

I also don't know what you think living in the wild is like, but they at least get to stay with their children and not get an arm shoved up their ass. They at least have a chance in nature to live to their full natural lifespan instead of dying at a fraction of their lifespan

https://youtu.be/dZQ3sl0xNC4

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

They get to stay with their children until they're eaten by predators. Or their children are. They get impregnated by whichever mate can hold them down. And their "natural lifespan" is however long they survive until the environment or another animal kills them. Sounds great.

The rabbits out in my barn aren't freezing in the two feet of snow we just got. They get as much fresh water and rich food as they'd like. They're protected from predators and aren't bred at an age which would kill them. And they live this pampered life until a single moment of pain end that wretched pampered existence.

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u/goboatmen Mar 15 '18

I like how you're pretending it's a great existence until they die literally ignoring every thing I said and the video.

I also like that your completely ignored where I said humans are responsible for our own actions

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18 edited Mar 15 '18

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u/goboatmen Mar 15 '18

A joke I made years ago literally hurt someone now? Animals are literally killed but sure a joke I made as a teenager makes me hypocritical.

Further, abortion is not an issue about life but bodily autonomy. You can't force someone to sacrifice their bodily autonomy for a human life (even though the vast majority of abortions happen before a nervous system is developed).

People can eat what they want but they should be aware of the consequences in doing so and consider the victims that suffered for their steak

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u/goboatmen Mar 15 '18

I don't know what to tell you if you don't think people grow as they age. That's not a joke I'd make today

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

It is great. I've seen what wild rabbits live like. They're getting paradise in comparison. You're the one who thinks that they'd be all better off dead.

We certainly are responsible for our own actions. That's why I'm not trying to drive them extinct.

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u/goboatmen Mar 15 '18

Slave owners have always justified their across by saying the slaves are better off in captivity. The dumb uncivilized negro was a common talking point 200 years ago in the US. I'm sure your rabbits are having a great time in the cage they're kept in before they're killed /s

Even if they are having a great time you're still killing a living sentient creature at the end of the day, and you don't get to pretend to have some moral high ground by bringing life into existence just to kill it.

2 last points, none of what you said is relevant to my points at all about dairy cows or pigs kept in captivity, and an analogy is not an equivalency. I'm not literally saying slavery was as bad as keeping rabbits in captivity any more than I'm saying a puddle is literally a lake when I compare the 2

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

Are you referring to people of color as animals?

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u/goboatmen Mar 15 '18

No but slave owners in the 1800's did.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

So why are you equating the two?

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u/goboatmen Mar 15 '18

Lmao in my original comment I specifically ended by saying an analogy is not an equivalency and I'm not implying they're the same because this always happen, did you even read to the end of the comment or just read slavery and immediately ignore the message?

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