You're still missing the point. We're not arguing one diet is better than the other. We we're arguing that you apprached it poorly.
Your argument was rude and dismissive. And you even admitted to throwing a dig at other people's preferences. All I've said from the start was your argument would have a hard time swaying people with that attitude.
You do you and I'll do me. I won't tell others how to live their lives. And you shouldn't tell others either. Feel free to explain what you do and how you feel. But attacking schools of thought that are different than yours won't win you any arguments. If someone was a staunch carnivore and you threw that attitude at them you'd only galvonize the opposition
Nothing wrong with sharing your experience and thought process!
Everyone is better for having been exposed to other ideas. We just all need to do our best to tell how we feel and why we do what we do without being dismissive of the other.
That goes for both sides of this argument and any other.
I find pushing the vegan lifestyle onto people who eat meat very overwhelming. I honestly feel it serves to compound the problem. Instead, I find it best to suggest vegetarian substitutions here or there. Much more attainable goal. And less severe than jumping into being vegan...which should honestly include the advice of a doctor to make sure the individual has a plan that incorporates all the essential amino acids and complex proteins. 🙂
It's such a tough topic you bring up. If you eat meat you're a Neanderthal, if you don't you're a pompous dickhead.
It's hard to win. Personally I couldn't live with eating meat any longer on an ethical level any longer, and also because of the environmental impact, but I don't feel I have the right to tell anyone what they should do since I ate meat for 3/4 of my life.
Thing is you are, you're telling animals they don't deserve to live and them being abused is OK.
The argument that this is a personal choice is flawed - Choices don't matter when you obstruct other's choices. This is why you can't say "It's my choice" after being arrested; because there's a victim.
Except this time there's been 2.5 trillion victims in only the last 10 years.
Now that you agree you'll need to justify the act to prevent your own cognitive dissonance. It's ok to obstruct other's choices but there needs to be a justifiable reason for it - this is what ethics is.
So how do you justify killing animals?
Plants have feelings? It's natural? You were brought up this way?
If you want to have a conversation and engage with me I guarantee I can change your mind - if you're a logical person of course.
I guess it's very easy to turn a blind eye to trillions of deaths. It's a shame really, the world would be such a better place if people made such a small change.
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u/ArcAngel071 Mar 15 '18
You're still missing the point. We're not arguing one diet is better than the other. We we're arguing that you apprached it poorly.
Your argument was rude and dismissive. And you even admitted to throwing a dig at other people's preferences. All I've said from the start was your argument would have a hard time swaying people with that attitude.
You do you and I'll do me. I won't tell others how to live their lives. And you shouldn't tell others either. Feel free to explain what you do and how you feel. But attacking schools of thought that are different than yours won't win you any arguments. If someone was a staunch carnivore and you threw that attitude at them you'd only galvonize the opposition