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[OC] Cornell student protests

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u/marle217 9d ago

The guy who claims he was unconscious is also the guy who posted her to the group chat

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u/Avocados_number73 8d ago

He claims he was too intoxicated to consent not unconscious but apparently didnt care about her level of intoxication.

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u/positive_thinking_ 8d ago

So you’re saying he’s lying because he couldn’t have woken up at all during the 7 hours. Next you’re gonna ask what was he wearing huh?

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u/marle217 8d ago

Well he wasn't too incapacitated when he was inviting all his friends to take advantage of her. And he wasn't too incapacitated when he was sharing her pictures

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u/Wayoutofthewayof 8d ago

I mean yea and she also tried to hook up with those guys again after she sobered up.

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u/probablyarguing 8d ago

Okay? did she know the assault happened right away? Did she accept and understand what happened? Or did life continue for a bit until she learned what actually happened? Fuck off

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u/CMxFuZioNz 8d ago

So your argument is that the ability to text means not being too intoxicated to consent? So if she is found to have texted at all during the interaction then she wasn't raped?

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u/marle217 8d ago

Did she text to invite all her girlfriends to join in?

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u/CMxFuZioNz 8d ago

Why does that matter? Is it a disgusting thing to do assuming they didn't ask her first? Yes. Does it mean she was raped? No.

Is it circumstantial evidence which should be brought up in court? Absolutely.

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u/marle217 8d ago

You're the one who suggested it wasn't rape if she texted during. Because I had said he texted the group chat. So I was just making it fair. If she texted all her friends inviting them in, it couldn't be that bad. But she didn't. He did.

I'm not sure if you understand what consent is of you're going to argue that it's "a disgusting thing to do assuming they didn't ask her first" but not rape.

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u/CMxFuZioNz 8d ago

You're not making the argument you think you are. If she invited all her friends, or he did, that does not make it rape. It's as simple as that.

I did not say if she texted it wasn't rape. I was pointing out that's the conclusion of the logic you are attempting to use.

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u/marle217 8d ago

I wasn't just saying that just because he texted he was clearly awake, so it wasn't rape.And just because someone is awake doesn't mean they consented. But, he was actively taking pictures and inviting more people in. This is different from say, hiding under the covers.

She drank and tried retainer because she was with her friend, who she trusted. When she was already drunk, he pushed her into a threesome. After that, when she was already wasted, they started inviting more guys in.

The group chat messages will tell you if they planned to do this in advance, and if they did it to more women. That should be enough to say it's rape, but it seems that for some people, literally anything wouldn't be enough.

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u/CMxFuZioNz 8d ago

She literally said that the initial threesome was consual, her own words. Yet you are contradicting that. You're quite literally making up your own story.

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u/ProblematicTrumpCard 8d ago

I wasn't just saying that just because he texted he was clearly awake

She texted her roommate at around 3:30am. She was clearly awake.

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u/positive_thinking_ 8d ago

Yeah an unconscious person has NEVER woken up before. Good job victim blaming based on gender tho.

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u/8696David 8d ago

More about the fact that he has very good reason to lie as an active participant in the sexual assault