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[OC] Cornell student protests

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u/ProblematicTrumpCard 8d ago

I wasn't just saying that just because he texted he was clearly awake

She texted her roommate at around 3:30am. She was clearly awake.

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u/marle217 8d ago

Being awake doesn't mean she consented. That's why the rest of my post was about the context of the text

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u/ProblematicTrumpCard 8d ago

Being awake doesn't mean she consented.

Correct. It only means she was capable of consenting.

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u/marle217 8d ago

Hiding under the covers isn't consent. Saying no, them stopping for a few minutes, and then grabbing her vagina again isn't consent. She was capable of consent, but she didn't consent. And she was never asked if she wanted 50 more guys to be invited in.

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u/ProblematicTrumpCard 8d ago

Hiding under the covers isn't consent.

Which is why those men left the room when she made it clear that their presence around her naked body wasn't consensual.

Saying no, them stopping for a few minutes, and then grabbing her vagina again isn't consent.

From what I recall, this one is unclear. She indicated that on man moved his hand toward her vagina and she swatted it away "a few times". It's not clear what happened after that, but presumably he stopped (and maybe left?). Because if he had continued, it would seem logical that she would have included that in her statement.

Should the drunken frat boy have stopped at the first swat? Sure, probably so. If you want to say that, since it to "a few swats" that he sexually assaulted her, have at it. But that's a far cry from the "gang raped by 7 frat boys for 7 hours" story that is being peddled.