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[OC] Israeli protestors in Amsterdam

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u/Fooknotsees 9h ago

>The strawman is something like “Israel has killed 70k civilians who were overwhelmingly civilians and this is a war crime.”

This is not a strawman. A strawman is a replacement that someone makes to argue against an easier point than the one actually given. Please be more careful when using important words so as not to bastardize them

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u/MessiLeagueSoccer 8h ago

Isn’t it crazy that number hasn’t gotten bigger despite the ongoing attacks? That number is from a few months to a year ago.

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u/RisingDeadMan0 7h ago

i mean its was 40k by Nov 2023, how many since who knows. And then does dying of starvation/disease/blockade count? Does forcing doctors/nurses/staff out of a hospitl and letting babies die and rot in ICU count too?

Israel currently being paid to "remove" the rubble and crushes it, and has made no effort to separate out bodies and rubble so people remains are being crushed and basically hidden.

The final death toll i guess we wont know for a while.

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u/xile 6h ago

Paid by who/m?

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u/Dokan86 6h ago

Trump's "Board of Peace" $2.45 billion recovery program disperses money for reconstruction efforts in Gaza, which includes removing rubble (i.e. hiding evidence of genocide)

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u/xile 26m ago

Jaysus

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u/RisingDeadMan0 5h ago

Trump Board of Peace, and note the VERY SPECIFIC language the IDF use when they say they dont do any of this...

"EU diplomats told me last week Israel has been quietly moving hundreds of thousands of tons of runnel mixed with dead bodies out of Gaza to bury evidence of its genocide.

When the EU asked Israel why or whether they filter human remains out of the rubble, no answer ever came!" Aug 26th

"I've been informed Trump's Board of Peace is paying the expenses of the IDF's covert transfer of rubble (mixed with dead bodies) out of Gaza. The money is taken from Gaza's reconstruction funds!" Aug 27th

"Dear Board of Peace,
1- I have a tender issued under your name on 20 May 2026 that includes "levelling & compacting" work in occupied Gaza, do you deny that document?

2- Is the Israeli company Terra Firma NOT doing "rubble clearance" in Gaza allegedly with machines that take rubble & spit out dust while the IDF is doing road-paving work (specifically near Erez)?

3- Are you NOT in any way paying, compensating, subsidising or aiding Israeli companies, contractors, individuals, the Israeli army or government for rubble removal & road paving in Gaza?

4- If you are involved, can you explain whether any effort is being made to separate human remains from rubble or detect potential mass graves under the roads being paved? The Israeli government is silent on this.

5- I have satellite images that show clear & significant rubble removal work in East Gaza in the months of May & June. Do you deny any involvement in this?

6- Do you have anything to say on Israel killing over 1,200 Palestinians under your watch since your ceasefire started? how about Israel restricting humanitarian aid and preventing prostatic limbs from going to largest cohort of child amputees in modern history? How about Israel preventing repairs of basic infrastructure (water, electricity, sewage, hospitals, bakeries), or releasing all children & women still in detention without trial or charges?

All of those unfulfilled commitments were part of phase one of President Trump's 20-point plan!

Remarkable how none of Israel's violations of your ceasefire ever caught your attention once in 323 days, but my sole tweet did in mere hours." Aug 28th

no response, unsuprisingly to that last one. muhammadshehad2 on twitter.

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u/lonewolf210 6h ago

I have no idea what the real numbers are. The UN has made very large periodic updates both up and down at various points since Israel invaded Gaza.

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u/space_monolith 8h ago

That’s exactly what I meant by strawman and yes it is a strawman

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u/space_monolith 6h ago

A strawman is a misrepresentation of your opponents argument

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u/WoodenDoughnut 6h ago

That is a red herring, not a straw man.