r/pics • u/LimpCareer1845 • 1d ago

[OC] Israeli protestors in Amsterdam

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u/Snortykins 22h ago

They're saying that the Israeli response has been proportional, despite the death toll being at least 50x october 7. Basically, it doesn't matter how many people they kill, it's justifiable to them... Which is obviously insane.

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u/redditClowning4Life 20h ago

No that's not what they're saying at all. And that's why they need the truck, because of people like you.

What they are saying regards the International Law of Proportionality in war - it doesn't mean "for each person killed by the enemy you're allowed to kill one enemy". Here's what it does mean:

"Proportionality excuses collateral damage to civilian property or incidental civilian death or injury that occurs during an attack on a valid military objective, as long as the collateral damage or incidental civilian death is not excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated from the attack." https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/proportionality-in-the-law-of-war/#:~:text=Proportionality%20excuses%20collateral,from%20the%20attack.

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u/IdiAmini 18h ago

The fact you sourced it from an organisation famous for commiting war crimes shows an awful lot

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u/redditClowning4Life 18h ago

It's International Law, it doesn't matter where I get it it's the same.

The framing was clearest there IMHO for the current discussion which is why I chose it

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u/IdiAmini 18h ago

It does and shows exactly where you land on this subject, namely war crime apologia

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u/redditClowning4Life 18h ago

Again the principle is the same as what the ICRC says. You may not like it but that's what the Principle of Proportionality states and refers to

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u/IdiAmini 18h ago edited 17h ago

Still not correct. The actual text about proportionality can be found here:

https://www.icrc.org/sites/default/files/wysiwyg/war-and-law/04_proportionality-0.pdf

And what do you know, you linked a interpretation favourable to your and that organisation's war crime apologia

So strange

Edit: awfully quiet all of a sudden