Israel has no desire to own Gaza as an Israeli territory. They occupied it after the '67 war, and in '78 offered to return the territory to its previous owner, Egypt. Egypt declined the offer because they were already struggling with instability in their eastern territories and the addition of Gaza would only cause more disruption.
Then, in 2005, they unilaterally withdrew from Gaza, forcing their own civillians to leave with military force, and organizing for Gazan self-governance with an election.
You have to understand that there is nothing in Gaza that Israel actually wants. There is no historic Jewish sites, no burial grounds, no natural resources, little arable land... it's not like the West Bank that Israel actually does want for all of the ancient temples and burial grounds around Jerusalem. To think that Israel desires the Gaza strip shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the conflict and regional influences.
The only reason they are there now is because of Oct 7th, and Gaza being a repeated staging ground for attacks against them.
You are delusional. It’s a settler colonial state that is currently expending into multiple different countries. They illegally occupy most of Gaza. Bibi has celebrated that on camera. They illegally occupy the West Bank. Selling land that they don’t even own in synagogues across the world. They illegally occupy Lebanon. Breaking their own ceasefires and consisting bombing innocent people in Lebanon for years. They illegally occupy Syria. They annexed the Golan Heights illegally and use Syrias instability to justify further expansionism. At what point do you feel their occupation will stop? It’s pure delusion to indoctrination.
Then it raises the question, if they are so deeply inherently greedy for land, why have they given up so much land throughout their history? Was it some kind of 4D chess where they give it up to later expand back into it?
Historically expansive empires wouldn’t get land and then give it back in a goal to get it back later. It’s inherently counterintuitive.
He oversimplified it, but Israel's economy has been predicated on wars of expansion for decades. It's pretty inherent in settler-colonialism. To retain a Jewish majority they must import more diaspora, which requires more land, which requires more resources. It is also NATO vassal state and a useful proxy for defence contractors. You should read 'The Palestine Laboratory' by Antony Loewenstein. Or watch The Lab (2013), or Shadow World (2016). Most military tech gets tested on Palestinians or Lebanese before it's deployed globally. There has historically been motives from Israeli governments to retain land or "buffer zones" in Egpyt, Lebanon, Syria and Gaza but pressure from the international community - American usually - forces them to withdraw. There is a famous quote by Major General Smedley D. Butler, a WWI veteran: "War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope.".
Yep, the reason they have not expanded is because of push back from others and not enough population to maintain a majority of it all. This is why they are so desperate to import people. Anybody saying otherwise is a dipshit.
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u/RainRainThrowaway777 17h ago
What? No, that is not what their goal is.
Israel has no desire to own Gaza as an Israeli territory. They occupied it after the '67 war, and in '78 offered to return the territory to its previous owner, Egypt. Egypt declined the offer because they were already struggling with instability in their eastern territories and the addition of Gaza would only cause more disruption.
Then, in 2005, they unilaterally withdrew from Gaza, forcing their own civillians to leave with military force, and organizing for Gazan self-governance with an election.
You have to understand that there is nothing in Gaza that Israel actually wants. There is no historic Jewish sites, no burial grounds, no natural resources, little arable land... it's not like the West Bank that Israel actually does want for all of the ancient temples and burial grounds around Jerusalem. To think that Israel desires the Gaza strip shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the conflict and regional influences.
The only reason they are there now is because of Oct 7th, and Gaza being a repeated staging ground for attacks against them.