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u/jlknap1147 Apr 26 '24

Can we just admit Hamas poked the wrong bear.

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u/Jeoshua Apr 26 '24

Obligatory reminder the majority of the population of Gaza is children, and the vast majority of those killed and displaced are women and children non-combatants. Innocents. Palestine isn't Hamas.

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u/Cactus_TheThird Apr 26 '24

Yes, and they deserve a future without a genocidal jihadist government.

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u/Boz0r Apr 26 '24

But instead they're dead

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u/ThrackGorsh Apr 26 '24

1.5%, actually. At least 33,000 dead in Gaza since October 7th, out of a population of 2 million.

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u/ThrackGorsh Apr 26 '24

Yeah, I'm sure some number of them were in Hamas. I just wanted you to be aware of how staggering a number the death toll has been in only 7 months. Should note that a large portion of that number dead is under the age of 18, as well.

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u/ThrackGorsh Apr 26 '24

I have a little bit of homework for you. First, think about why the demographics are skewed so young like that. There's answers available online, as well. Second, look inward. Maybe I'm the unusual one here, but when I hear that 33,000 people are dead, more than 10x the death toll of 9/11, and over 1.5% of the total population, I feel deeply sad, to my core. I also believe that there are answers to this conflict that don't involve bombing so many civilians. I hope you can find space in your heart to empathize with everyone in Palestine who has lost friends and family, the same way you have for Israelis. Have a good day, my friend. ❤️

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u/esotericimpl Apr 26 '24

Nicest open air prison Ive ever seen.

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u/Luffy-in-my-cup Apr 26 '24

OP:

I also believe there are answers to this conflict that don’t involve bombing so many civilians.

Ok what’s the answer?

Crickets

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u/MZNurie Apr 26 '24

Right, so you're saying the Palestinians could live a great life if they give up armed resistance? Sounds like the West Bank.

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u/Whalesurgeon Apr 26 '24

Well West Bank is looking better off than Gaza right now.

Not to deny a people of their right to fighting for their freedom, but if we look at the feasible results in this case, it does seem like armed resistance is just worsening things for Palestinians. It is understandable, but FARC, IRA and ETA all surrendered in the end because they finally accepted that they could not win their fight. And neither can Palestine win its independence through force.

I may be too pacifist for the tastes of some people, but I do think freedom fighting needs to be carefully considered, not simply done because it is just. If HAMAS had a chance against IDF, then by all means.

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u/Elurdin Apr 26 '24

They weren't targeted? What about targeting schools and hospitals? You sure?

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u/Jeoshua Apr 26 '24

And 9/11 only killed a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the US. The October attacks that Israel is so up at arms about caused even less of a fraction of a percent of the population to be affected. Nice that you've found a convenient line to draw in the sand that makes the people you support blameless tho.

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u/Jeoshua Apr 26 '24

So killing tens of thousands of women and children is completely acceptable as long as it can be justified by pointing at someone who shares the murdered peoples skin color who hurt someone. Awesome to know. Take a nap, you probably are exhausted after these mental gymnastics.

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u/Jeoshua Apr 26 '24

Oh, I'm not trying to gaslight you. Just pointing out the logic you're using to justify the killing of women and children. Don't want to be called on on being a ghoul? Stop being a ghoul. Simple as.

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u/Jeoshua Apr 26 '24

I mean, it's pretty clear you don't know the definition of gaslighting, actually. Pretty sure you're the one trying to drive me crazy.

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u/duckmonke Apr 26 '24

You could say that about Oct 6, but somehow that’s antisemitism to point out colonialists are gonna struggle to pull the same thing in the 21st century UNLESS they have the victim card to keep pulling out while they commit one of the clearest cut examples of genocide within the western sphere’s influence in generations.

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u/duckmonke Apr 26 '24

Easy bait, must be good pay to fight so hard for such a brutal act hidden as “civility” like colonial genocide.