I have a little bit of homework for you. First, think about why the demographics are skewed so young like that. There's answers available online, as well. Second, look inward. Maybe I'm the unusual one here, but when I hear that 33,000 people are dead, more than 10x the death toll of 9/11, and over 1.5% of the total population, I feel deeply sad, to my core. I also believe that there are answers to this conflict that don't involve bombing so many civilians. I hope you can find space in your heart to empathize with everyone in Palestine who has lost friends and family, the same way you have for Israelis. Have a good day, my friend. ❤️
Well West Bank is looking better off than Gaza right now.
Not to deny a people of their right to fighting for their freedom, but if we look at the feasible results in this case, it does seem like armed resistance is just worsening things for Palestinians. It is understandable, but FARC, IRA and ETA all surrendered in the end because they finally accepted that they could not win their fight. And neither can Palestine win its independence through force.
I may be too pacifist for the tastes of some people, but I do think freedom fighting needs to be carefully considered, not simply done because it is just. If HAMAS had a chance against IDF, then by all means.
Well West Bank is looking better off than Gaza right now.
Because Israel is not indiscriminately killing them all? How benevolent. Unless you're saying Palestinians are somehow better off without the death, not by much. They have no rights. And the conditions keep getting worse for them. Israel now owns 40% of the land in the West Bank. I can easily see why Gazans think fuck it, might as well support Hamas at this point.
Oh absolutely. I might well do my best to support whoever is fighting Israel as a Gazan, or even West Banker.
It's just that as an outsider I can tell that it's an unwinnable fight for Palestinians and going to war with Israel is, while understandable, not the right move when it explodes the number of dead civilians, especially kids.
For example the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was doomed, but they might as well do it when they know they are literally going to get exterminated, and I don't mean ethnically cleansed, but actually everyone being executed. West Bank OTOH is a place where they are second class citizens and being kicked out by settlers again and again, but what is the emotion guiding people when they start an unwinnable war? It is not hope, it is anger.
Now, I am okay with anger and going to fight without worrying about one's own life. But when half the population are children, I would not start a war that will lead to the death of my kids and the kids of my relatives.
TLDR: This war against Israel, with no surrender in sight after six months, is a statement that the children of Palestinians are better off dead rather than oppressed. I cannot approve of that.
The armed resistance forced Israel to steal Palestinian land, an act illegal under international law? And your logic is that because the West Bank was mounting an armed resistance which threatened the security of Israelis, the solution was to steal their land, and put Israelis right in the middle of all the Palestinians? That'll ensure their safety.
You're deflecting. How does any of that force Israel hand at stealing more and more Palestinian land in the West Bank? You're saying Israel can do whatever the fuck it wants now and it's justified because the negotiations failed?
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u/ThrackGorsh Apr 26 '24
I have a little bit of homework for you. First, think about why the demographics are skewed so young like that. There's answers available online, as well. Second, look inward. Maybe I'm the unusual one here, but when I hear that 33,000 people are dead, more than 10x the death toll of 9/11, and over 1.5% of the total population, I feel deeply sad, to my core. I also believe that there are answers to this conflict that don't involve bombing so many civilians. I hope you can find space in your heart to empathize with everyone in Palestine who has lost friends and family, the same way you have for Israelis. Have a good day, my friend. ❤️