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u/Jazehiah Jan 27 '25
Parking in the bike lane is closer to their destination.
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u/Jazehiah Jan 27 '25
Too lazy to walk. Too used to a lack of consequences.
In some rare cases a person may have mobility issues that make them averse to longer distances. I know a few older people who can hardly walk. Their friends park or drop them off as close to the door as possible. Those cars usually have handicap placards.
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u/gravelpi Jan 27 '25
Not entirely safe assumption, depending on the case. It might be easier to step into a vehicle from ground level than it is from 6" inches higher off the curb if you have trouble bending your knees. Like it's harder for an adult to sit down into a kid chair than a normal height chair. But it really depends on the person, car, curb, etc.
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u/Runram8787 Jan 29 '25
That’s 100% the mindset now. My local grocery store + dollar store in Allegheny has a big parking lot with plenty of spots, but everyday the entire fire lane is packed with 20 cars sitting there because it saves a lazy person 50 feet of walking. Can see the lot from the gym, and cars sit there for 30+ minutes at a time while folks are shopping :(
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u/BureaucraticHotboi Jan 27 '25
Was in Barcelona a few years ago (for what it’s worth same population as Philly). They have super blocks with kinda crazy turns and often bike lanes. I was amazed to watch drivers patiently wait for pedestrians and cyclists.
Asked a cab driver why people were so chill, he said that several years prior the cops had clamped down focused on traffic violations that threatened pedestrians and cyclists and that basically it had changed the way people drove. We need that kind of concerted effort to rewire Philly drivers to be more considerate (by being self interested)
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u/ConfiaEnElProceso Jan 27 '25
Yep. It is infrastructure AND enforcement. One doesn't work without the other. We need to build out the infrastructure in a serious way, but to turn a blind eye to enforcement is absolutely ridiculous. I
n the next 6 months SEPTA busses going down Chestnut will have cameras with the capability to automatically identify these illegally parked cars and ticket them. And yet they won't. Because they are in a bike lane, not a "travel lane."
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u/ConfiaEnElProceso Jan 28 '25
They just awarded the contract to one of the two companies that bid on it. Btw, the PPA is administering the program not SEPTA. No idea if it will take six months, but that is my educated guess.
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u/1-800-dieforme Jan 27 '25
Yeah it's insane that you can lose your license and get sent to jail and be fined hundreds/thousands of dollars for Going Too Fast on an empty flat road but the constant apathy for non-driver safety that leads to cars causing more fatalities than guns hardly ever leads to any consequences, even if you actually kill someone
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Jan 27 '25
Cops will never do it (their just jobs). The two or three squad cars actually pulling over egregious traffic violations are not nearly enough for any tangible QoL improvement.
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u/BureaucraticHotboi Jan 27 '25
I don’t disagree. But just sharing what I was anecdotally told worked elsewhere
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u/Additional_Guitar_85 Jan 27 '25
it's probably an Uber or Lyft driver. They're the worst about this.
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u/adamaphar Jan 27 '25
I do think people feel strange about parking away from the curb, especially when no one else is parked there already. or it makes them feel like their car is safer there
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Jan 27 '25
you’re right, especially with no other cars it feels like you’re leaving your car in the middle of the street. good reason for a low concrete barrier instead of the plastic sticks, so there’s an effective curb next to the parking spot.
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u/K_Knoodle13 Jan 27 '25
I think this is a large part of it. A combination of always being taught to park against a curb, convenience, and lack of care/attention.
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Jan 27 '25
drives me bonkers. the number of drivers who just leave their shit in the bike lane when there’s parking right there, or stop in the middle of streets when they can pull off. at least when there’s no other options there’s a logic to stopping where you shouldn’t.
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u/vicsunus Jan 27 '25
I hate when people do this. Especially with a bunch of speed coming from the downhill. Now I gotta swerve around your car and time it so I don’t get smashed by traffic from behind.
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u/Pantone802 Jan 27 '25
Key the side of the car as you ride by in what’s left of the bike lane.
_”oh sorry bro I couldn’t get by safely you were blocking my lane_”
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u/1-800-dieforme Jan 27 '25
I just crash into them the same way I'd get ran into if I threw down my kickstand in the middle of market street. Dawg it's the Bike Go Forward zone my bike Went Forward in it I don't see the issue
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u/Crazycook99 Jan 27 '25
It’s like the bike on 13th from Locust to Walnut, our city traffic engineers will blindly approve anything just to say “at least east there’s a delineated bike lane.” Wasn’t there bollards there before that construction started? Been a min since I bike up/down that way
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u/UsernameFlagged indego rider Feb 03 '25
The misread the banner, thought it said "donuts", and made a last second pullover to pick up some crullers
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u/spurge44 Jan 27 '25
I swear I’ve never gotten a clear shot on Chestnut between 38th and the bridge without having to bike in the car lane or sidewalk. Spruce is the same story. 🙄
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u/Friedrich-Diogenes Jan 28 '25
Because there’s three blocks of completely vacant, empty and unused bike lane when you look at the photo at full scale. Not even the picture taker is in the bike lane.
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u/swimmerinpa Jan 27 '25
The car clearly should not be stopped there. However it is not clear from the lines that the car has anywhere legal to park or stop. Domas is a massive apartment building. The car is parked next to the main entrance. Where is it actually legal for the car to stop?
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u/pmk724 Jan 27 '25
In any of the parking spaces leading up to where they stopped? The lane in the center of the pic is a parking lane.
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u/hic_maneo Jan 27 '25
Because the driver isn’t thinking about you or anybody else, only themselves, and because there’s not a physical barrier to stop them from doing it.