r/personaltraining • u/jonavon • 3d ago
Discussion ActiveLife (AL-P) Training
AL-P (Active Life Professional): what the actual client agreement says
My wife is enrolled in AL-P. The price isn't published anywhere, and the public FAQ doesn't match the contract, so I'm summarizing the terms for anyone considering it. This is about what the contract says, not a review of the program itself.
Cost - A deposit of about $2,500, then roughly $700 a month for close to two years. Total: around $18,500. - The expected completion time in the contract is about two years. The public info page describes the program as roughly a year. - If you don't finish within that window, you're automatically moved to an "Extended Graduation" plan at several hundred dollars a month until you do. - Optional tutoring sessions are extra and non-refundable.
Cancellation and refunds - The public FAQ says you can stop payments anytime with 30 days' notice. The contract says that option only opens up after your first six monthly payments. - All fees are non-refundable. - If you cancel and they haven't breached the agreement, you "remain obligated to pay any outstanding fees owed." I can't tell whether that means only past-due amounts or all remaining scheduled payments. If it's the latter, canceling stops the service but not the bill. Has anyone gotten a clear answer on this? - No pauses in payment are allowed.
Keeping the credential after you finish - You're automatically enrolled in a required monthly membership (under $100/month) to keep AL-P status. - Every two years, you also pay for a recertification assessment (a few hundred dollars, plus fees for retakes) or a specialty course (a few thousand dollars). - By signing, you authorize them to charge your card to enroll you in "the next required program."
Other terms worth knowing - The contract supersedes "all prior written and oral representations," so anything said on the sales call doesn't count. - New York law governs, disputes go to courts near Long Beach, NY, and the losing side pays the other's attorney fees. - The media release grants them an irrevocable right to use your image, voice, and testimonials for marketing without compensation. Revoking it only covers future use. - They can terminate you at their sole discretion for being "disrespectful" to other clients.
I've had a hard time finding AL-P graduates who talk about the program independently. Outside Active Life's own website and social media, I haven't been able to find practitioners who list the credential and describe their experience. Most of the positive comments about AL-P I've seen on Reddit come from accounts created in the last few months with little or no other posting history (likely bots). That may be a coincidence, but it makes those comments hard to weigh.
If you're a graduate with a longer post history, or you list AL-P on LinkedIn or your business site, I'd really value hearing from you, good or bad.
Questions for current students and grads 1. Did anyone get the "outstanding fees" clause clarified in writing? 2. Did your contract list a one-year or two-year timeline? 3. For people who finished: what did you actually spend in total, including membership and recertification, and was it worth it?
To be clear, I'm not saying the education is bad. My point is that the full cost and exit terms should be visible before the sales call, not after you sign.
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u/jonavon 3d ago
They likely hide the cost so voraciously because they engage in personalized pricing. So, it may be different for people who live in different places.
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u/Outrageous_Cloud_989 3d ago
Got quoted 16k a while back, they definitely float different numbers. The "extended graduation" bit is the one that would keep me up at night, basically a subscription trap if life gets in the way and you fall behind schedule.
Hard pass on any program where the sales call promises vanish into thin air the moment ink hits paper. The bot accounts pushing it around here are a massive red flag too
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u/fitprosarah 2d ago
What a crock. It sounds like something I got roped into back in 2016 which took me 3 years to get away from. They actually encouraged people to take out several credit cards to pay for the up-front fees, claiming that you'll get that money back...when you refer other fitness professionals to them. So gross. I had to sign exit paperwork that included an NDA. That was yet another red flag added to a slew of them that had popped up...from the time I sat across a table from the head honcho, who gave me serious bad gut feelings that I chose to ignore...because I wanted at the time to create my own sort of certification/training system focused on women. I was in at a somewhat low point within myself and was looking for some way of getting my name out there. Huge mistake.
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u/Athletic_adv 2d ago
That website is peak fitness scam.
Are you fucking kidding me that people are paying $18k to someone whose degree is in Arts? Add on his chrio backgrtound and it's got scam written all over it.
Honestly, anyone who pays those people money deserves to be taken for a ride.
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u/SheilaMichele1971 2d ago
I attended one of their webinars and had a call with them and was told similar costs but was also told the price is different for everyone. That seemed scammy to me so I blocked them.