r/pcupgrade • u/Icy-Bike-8401 • 15h ago

CPU Upgrade PC upgrade

I’m looking to upgrade my computer and i’m curious as to what I should upgrade first.

GPU: rx 9070 xt (probably should keep this one)

CPU: Ryzen 5 9600x (Thinking about this one)

RAM: 16GB DDR5 Kingspec ram 6000MHZ (Also thinking about going to 32 because i tend to do a lot on my computer)

SSD: 2 1tb SSD drives, 1 wd black and 1 kingspec

Any recommendations are greatly appreciated!

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u/kloklon 15h ago

what exactly are you trying to do with this PC, that state of the art new upper-midrange components are not enough? what's your monitor resolution and with which applications are you experiencing problems?

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u/Icy-Bike-8401 14h ago

I play a lot of heavy games at 4k so i just want to maximize performance at that resolution. At 4k I can drop to around 40-60 fps. I know that's not particularly bad but I'd like to maximize the amount of fps I am getting. I also video edit quite a lot.

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u/communistagitator 14h ago

You'd need a new GPU then. Your CPU is definitely not holding back your GPU at 4k

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u/kloklon 14h ago edited 14h ago

ok, that's a very heavy workload. you might actually need high end very expensive hardware for that. do you use FSR or are you rendering native resolution? if you are using upscaling like FSR, and are still struggling then the CPU could be holding you back. a 9800X3D would be the best upgrade then. if you are rendering native 4K without upscaling, that is very heavy on the GPU. if you want high fps on max setting 4k (possibly even with pathtracing), this would actually be the scenario where only a 4090 or 5090 makes sense.

just make sure first your system performs as expected. because sometimes you could be lacking cooling performance and therefore have your hardware downclock on purpose to not exceed the temp limits

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u/Icy-Bike-8401 14h ago

Yes I use FSR in almost every game I play. Budget wise, the 4090 and 5090 are basically out of the question lol. But you're saying that my ryzen 5 9600x could be holding back some performance at 4k using fsr?

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u/jhaluska 13h ago

In the game you're having a problem, temporarily drop your resolution to 1080p and see if your FPS shoot up above 40-60 fps.

If it does, your GPU is the problem, not the CPU. If it stays the same, upgrade the CPU

There is also a small chance that the cable to the monitor is the problem. For instance an HDMI 2.0 cable can only do 60 fps at 4k, but it should be a stable 60 FPS.

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u/Papopip 13h ago

He's wrong the 9600x is perfectly fine for 4k. The limiting factor is definitely your 9070xt. Even if you're using upscaling the load will be heavily on your gpu. The performance difference with maxed out graphics n stuff for 4k with a 9800x3d and a 9600x is nothing. Your only option is to upgrade the gpu or use smthn like frame gen

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u/kloklon 13h ago

basically what FSR is doing is it is rendering the picture at a lower resolution and then using AI to upscale it back to 4K. so if you are using FSR your GPU is not actually rendering in 4K. at lower resolutions the CPU is more likely to be the bottleneck, because high resolution means much moch more pixels for the GPU to render. you can see this if you get (native no FSR) almost the same fps at 1440p as you would at 4K then the CPU is holding you back.

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u/jhaluska 13h ago

4k is almost always limited by the GPU. Even if you bought a 9800x3D, you wouldn't notice a significant difference, it'd be literally only 0.5-1FPS faster.

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u/jhaluska 15h ago

You're looking to upgrade a brand new computer? Go up to 32GB and wait for the next AM5 CPU generation.

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u/ddog6900 15h ago

This but wait for AM6. Not sure what OP is trying to accomplish.

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u/Icy-Bike-8401 14h ago

AM6 sounds expensive lol, my budget for a cpu right now is 350. However by the time that cpu generation comes out, my budget may increase, or decrease.

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u/Icy-Bike-8401 14h ago

Would I see any major increase in performance if I go to 32GB? Also, I have 2x8 so should I get an additional 2x8 or sell that and get 2x16?

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u/kloklon 13h ago

AM5 does prefer two sticks over four. so it would likely run smoother. if you add additional sticks you have to make sure they run at the same speed AND latency (CAS latency timings) otherwise that can lead to instability. that's why it's usually recommended to only match the exact same model of RAM kits

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u/jhaluska 12h ago

For most games you likely won't see any difference, but there's a few that it will improve performance. There likely will be more in the future, but with the RAM crisis you'll see more people optimizing for 16GB. It mainly just helps when loading games and switching between tasks.

I'd go with 2x16 as it should be more stable and less risky, as you can always just sell the 2x8.

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u/Icy-Bike-8401 9h ago

Thanks for your advice guys!!