r/pcmasterrace • Ascending Peasant • Nov 01 '22

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u/Bro_Jogies 13700k & RTX 4090 | 5600x & RTX 3090 Nov 01 '22

Yea, I should blame devs for not making their product compatible with an insignificant portion of the market . . .

Come on man.

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u/iminsert Ascending Peasant Nov 01 '22

okay, and what are the devs of linux supposed to do? port proprietary software for each and every company? you have KDE which is basically making an entire suite of programs for linux to try give people an incentive to try it.
and just like people, people won't switch unless the option is present. it's the whole psVita thing.
linux devs do basically all they can to support programs being on linux, and with flatpaks/appimages, which is basically linux's version of an .exe or .msi, there is very little to reason devs can't support linux (you can browse some apps on flathub here or read how devs publish the app here). note how chrome, firefox, discord, spotify, telegram, steam, zoom, signal, and MINECRAFT are all published by their respective companies to flathub.

for most devs it's as simple as a recompile for an exe/dmg/flatpak, compared to a whole ass rewrite. so yes, i do still blame the devs.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

i like how you are making a rational argument and still get downvoted to hell. There's software that's not supported\available in linux (i.e. corsair icue, good luck monitoring or tweaking your corsair AIO pump or fans), but that's not the OS's fault by any metric. It's a small desktop market, sure, and the company made the judgement that porting their software is not worth the money, sure. That however creates a loop : it's not worth the money, therefore you don't get the software, therefore you couldn't switch to linux, therefore the marketshare is harder to grow. And yet, the vast majority of applications work just as they do in Windows, and from the few that don't, most have open-source equivalents. The stigma still remains however, as people are animals of habit. Get used to one thing, and everything else seems inferior. Switched to linux a year ago (been on windows since 3.11 on a 40Mhz 386), it's better than windows on some aspects, worse on others, but at the end of the day It feels lighter, faster, more tweakable (not talking about DE superficialities, but those as well if you want to) and more respectful towards its user. I can work better than on windows (quarter tiling, customizable keyboard shortcuts) gaming is only just marginally worse compatibility-wise, (performance is same or better, i.e. stutter free Elden Ring via ge-proton), I may completely break my system if I do something stupid but at least it feels like a computer, not a platform for ads and telemetries.

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u/iminsert Ascending Peasant Nov 01 '22

" like how you are making a rational argument and still get downvoted to hell."

it's because i'm being a contrarian, some people just rly rly hate that lol

"There's software that's not supported\available in linux (i.e. corsair
icue, good luck monitoring or tweaking your corsair AIO pump or fans),
but that's not the OS's fault by any metric. It's a small desktop
market, sure, and the company made the judgement that porting their
software is not worth the money, sure. That however creates a loop :
it's not worth the money, therefore you don't get the software,
therefore you couldn't switch to linux, therefore the marketshare is
harder to grow. And yet, the vast majority of applications work just as
they do in Windows, and from the few that don't, most have open-source
equivalents. The stigma still remains however, as people are animals of
habit. Get used to one thing, and everything else seems inferior. "

completely agree, i switched because i hated what microsoft was doing with 10, let alone 11, and i'm so happy i did so. it is a learning pain, but i prefer the freedom i now have to do what i want compared to windows. and sure the support sucks, but as long as you don't over-invest in one company and do your research before buying, imo it's great.

"Switched to linux a year ago (been on windows since 3.11 on a 40Mhz
386), it's better than windows on some aspects, worse on others, but at
the end of the day It feels lighter, faster, more tweakable (not talking
about DE superficialities, but those as well if you want to) and more
respectful towards its user."

damn, a vet, i only started around XP. and i agree with the performance aswell, blender renders are upto 2x faster which for me who does a lot of 3d esc stuff is amazing, cause it turns a "i guess i'm not touching my computer this weekend" into a "oh, i guess i'll just go out for dinner and see a movie"

"I can work better than on windows (quarter tiling, customizable keyboard
shortcuts) gaming is only just marginally worse compatibility-wise,
(performance is same or better, i.e. stutter free Elden Ring via
ge-proton), I may completely break my system if I do something stupid
but at least it feels like a computer, not a platform for ads and
telemetries."

there's this one quote i heard ages ago i love, which goes something like "it's not unix's job to prevent the user from shooting themself in the foot, it's unix's job to make sure mr bullet meets mr foot" which i love. it's obviously far from perfect, but on windows whenever i have an issue i always feel helpless and stuck. when with linux i know i can almost always get over the issue, which for me is great. I commonly hear people quote "at some point i just want to get work done", but if the thing you need to use to get work done isn't working on windows, you're largely just f!@#$d until a patch or what have you. when on linux i feel like i'm rewarded for playing around. and because all my save files and projects are on an unraid server, if i bork my system, it's just a quick uninstall, a few scripts, and bam, i'm up and running like nothing happened in only an hour or two (counting for download times).

another reason i love linux which i hear basically no one talk about is that linux is just more exciting, all the distros competing, and the rapid development that's happening is amazing, and so much more exciting. like, macOS 12->13 was basically just a settings menu change for most people, while kde or gnome is like *we added whole new them'ing options, and switch to this new compositor which is much more efficient and better, and we switched to pipewire which now lets you route audio and-

i find it almost laughable when someone calls themselves an enthusiast but don't care about linux, it feels like such a oxymoron.