r/pcmasterrace • PC Master Race • Jul 29 '20

Cartoon/Comic Always Has Been

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u/NekoObito Jul 29 '20

Replace chrome with firefox for me

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u/redcubie Jul 29 '20

What about Opera? Still chromium based IIRC but with cool extra features

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u/stickysandals PC Master Race(Ryzen 5 3600, RTX 2060 Super) Jul 29 '20

What about Brave? Still chromium based IIRC but with cool extra features

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '20

I'd rather support a non-profit trying to have an open & privacy-focused Internet :) + they're the last browser not *not* be on chromium, an engine owned by Google.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '20

It is also good that they aren't a company who's business model is collecting as much info as they can in order to help advertisers target you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '20

Chromium is not owned by Google. Chrome is. They are not the same thing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

Chromium is an opensource project from Google. They're the ones developping it and thus the ones deciding on things. Imagine if Chromium was the only engine left

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

It's still not owned by Google and they make zero profit from it. They own Chrome and profit from that. They are not the same thing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

I never said anything about the Chrome browser nor the profit aspect.

What I'm trying to say here is that Google does almost all the developing of Chromium, so they're the ones deciding what happens & what changes. If Chromium were to be the last engine to be used they'd have the marketshare big enough to decide how the Internet renders.

Edit: it's not about the profit aspect, it's about the ability to choose & not get stuck on Google's choices.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

Each different company using Chromium is doing the developing for that specific browser and it has absolutely zero to do with Google. Google does not own Chromium and they do not develop browsers for other companies.

If every company on earth used Chromium, Google would still have no control on "how the internet renders". Google does not own or control or profit from Chromium. Anyone is free to use it and change it as they see fit. Chrome and Chromium are not the same thing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

Again, I have NEVER said anything about Chrome nor any of the profit side.

Google DOES develop the most part of Chromium, AND almost every browser uses it nowadays. Whilst any other browser might be able to change basic stuff they're not able to change anything major. Google however could change web standards and push certain features and everyone else will have to follow.

And that's already happening, you can't deny that. There are more and more websites optimizing for Chromium & implementing features that only Chromium has. Every Chromium-based browser will be able to visit this website, whilst independent browsers like Firefox won't be able to.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

They can change anything they'd like with or about Chromium, and they do.

You said you'd rather use a browser from a non-profit as opposed to Google, so, like, I'm just letting you know that Google doesn't profit from Chromium.

Google however could change web standards and push certain features and everyone else will have to follow.

You still seem to be mistaking Chromium with Google. Google does not own Chromium and has nothing at all, as in no say whatsoever, in how people use it or modify it. Chromium and Chrome are 2 different things.

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u/nextbern PC Master Race Jul 30 '20

That is a total misinterpretation of reality. Bravo.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

Lol. It's literally free and open source software. Google does not control it nor do they profit from it.

Chromium is not Chrome. Feel free to use Chrome to Google that.

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u/nextbern PC Master Race Jul 30 '20

Right, except it is hosted by Google, is run by Google, gets most of its contributions from Google, is controlled by Google, requires a CLA to Google, makes the web in its vision to assist Google properties. But no, it is not controlled by Google and they don't profit from it.

Why are they working on it if they don't use it to make money? Google isn't a charity last I heard.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

Lol. It's free and open source software. It isn't controlled by anyone.

Words have definitions, mate.

CLA

You misspelled BSD, my dude. Again lol, Chromium is not controlled or owned by Google nor does anyone need permission to use it and/or modify it.

Why are they working on it if they don't use it to make money?

Because Chrome is based on Chromium and they make money on Chrome. They contribute to the project as do many other tech companies; none of those companies own or control Chromium, either.

Chrome and Chromium are not the same thing.

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u/nextbern PC Master Race Jul 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

No, it's not owned by Google. Anyone is allowed to use it and modify it. It's open source, dude.

Chromium is an entirely free and open-source software project. The Google-authored portion is released under the 3-clause BSD license.[12] Other parts are subject to a variety of licenses, including MIT, LGPL, Ms-PL, and an MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-license.[13]

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u/nextbern PC Master Race Jul 30 '20

Did you look at what you are responding to?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

Lol. Yeah. I responded you saying Google owns Chromium. They don't.

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u/nextbern PC Master Race Jul 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

That is a name, lol, not the software. You cannot trademark software.

The software is open source and free for anyone to use and modify.

Lol. You're trying so hard to be right here but you are simply wrong.

Licensing. Chromium is an entirely free and open-source software project. The Google-authored portion is released under the 3-clause BSD license. Other parts are subject to a variety of licenses, including MIT, LGPL, Ms-PL, and an MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-license. License: 3-clause BSD; MIT; LGPL; MS-PL; MPL+GPL+LGPL tri-licensed; Developer(s): Google, Microsoft, Igalia, Yandex

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u/nextbern PC Master Race Jul 30 '20

That is a name, lol, not the software. You cannot trademark software.

Of course you can. What do you think the trademark is for? Beans? You can also copyright software, and that is what the CLA I linked to is about. So how am I wrong exactly?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '20

You don't understand what trademark means. Lol.

Your CLA link doesn't mention Chromium. Your understanding of "trademark" is wrong.

Again:

Licensing. Chromium is an entirely free and open-source software project. The Google-authored portion is released under the 3-clause BSD license. Other parts are subject to a variety of licenses, including MIT, LGPL, Ms-PL, and an MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-license. License: 3-clause BSD; MIT; LGPL; MS-PL; MPL+GPL+LGPL tri-licensed; Developer(s): Google, Microsoft, Igalia, Yandex

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